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  1. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Now here we go again, deceived you're headed on a diversion and stick not to the straight path. Paul did not specify which of the Jews and which of the Gentiles, but he's addressing to the born again church, for there's neither Jews or Gentiles but 'one' body of Christ. Like i testified to...
  2. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You're nearly there, thank you, that you want to research and get it right the truth, peace be with you in Jesus name. Just like i testified in my previous post that, spiritual gifts of the Holy Ghost must be 'met' by charity. What's the point of having the gifts of the Holy Ghost and love not...
  3. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    There no Holy Bible scripture to support your own false doctrine and claim. But ours do, for Christ alone since have been the 'firstfruit' or 'firstborn' of resurrection from the dead, and none else until He returns . For the Apostles and the church saints who in Christ and dead are 'asleep'...
  4. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Not scriptural but they're your own words adding to the scripture, i get it. So Paul, Peter and James are already in Heaven?
  5. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    There's no verse that read, "They had many interesting conversations....." Why make things up?
  6. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Then quote the verse for readers! "They had many interesting conversations............."
  7. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Go to ch. 14 in context, for it begins with, 'Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but preferably the 'gift' that ye may prophesy (ch.12). And the following verses are about using the Holy Ghost given 'gifts' and together with 'charity', for the benefit of the church and not oneself.
  8. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    1 Corinthians 11: 5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoreth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. Here Paul is indicating that woman (not all) do pray(also in tongues with interpretation) and prophesy, 'speak' for the 'edification'...
  9. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    That's not scripture...
  10. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Yet Jesus Christ through Paul His 'instrument', allowed women to 'pray' and 'prophesy' equally with men, according to ch. 11 Elder Bishops and deacons are men, and they will decide whether the woman is 'competent' to 'pray' and 'prophesy' for or to the congregation. Basically women are to be...
  11. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    In context to what Paul is referring, 'tongues will not cease if it is 'equally' met with 'charity'.
  12. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You've got a very strong point there Mr Dough! But how can a women 'prophesy' (ch.11) that which 'edifies' the church (ch.14), in 'silent'?? 1 Corinthians 14: 3 But he that 'prophesieth speaketh unto men' to 'edification', and 'exhortation', and 'comfort'. 4. He that 'speaketh' in an unknown...
  13. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    You've caught me there red handed and i surrender Mr Dough! i take my hat off for you, and am sorry, thought you were asleep, but seems you're wide awake, my bad. Let's go to the next one then....
  14. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Well done Ms Jane, you put a smile on my face! Noted and furthermore, 'the mother of our Lord', proclaimed Elisabeth herself having the Holy Ghost. And, 'a blessed woman among all other women', the world will remember her as. Based on the saying of this world, 'she would have rolled over her...
  15. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Okay i surrender, you've had me at this verse, before reading your post this verse came to mind yesterday and i looked it through. Apparently they would have had conversation with each other during the fifteen days, and surely Jesus' topic would be an interesting one. i believe for James, as...
  16. Fred J

    Can the Bible contain mistakes?

    Thanks, i didn't know that there's KJV with 80 books. i have the 1611 KJV version of 66 books as well; Nowadays hardly you see believers carrying the physical Bible around since the apps in the phone has taken over. The age of information and entertainment at your fingertips can be good on...
  17. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Don't get me wrong but there's no account of that in the scripture, even to them breaking bread.
  18. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Your church and not ours, for we have nothing in common, but just want to expose your fallacy.
  19. Fred J

    WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

    Why do you ask me the verse when you're in a dilemma, where you copy and paste scripture to fit your own doctrine? Those who speak in tongues, scripture does not mention whether male or female, but rather in general male or female. Paul did not say they should be silent completely, but rather...
  20. Fred J

    So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

    Therefore after Jesus the promised one, Joseph and Mary became normal married couple and furthermore fruitful parents. Jesus had 3 brothers and 2 sisters, looks like after Jesus the 'firstborn', Joseph and Mary became crazy in love with each other and made more babies. Hallelujah in Jesus...