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  1. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You're a mistake here, who copy and paste scripture to lecture us your false doctrine version opposed to GOD's Word, Jesus Christ. That's again your false lecture, period The scripture prophesied about world events as for the church's sign and time of His return and for us to be ready due...
  2. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Jacob and his 12 sons and their descendants make up the Israel of GOD, the 'seed' of Abraham in the flesh and by promise according to the Old and kingdom of man, on one side. After Christ the 'actual seed' by the flesh and by promise to Abraham whom shall fulfill the everlasting covenant...
  3. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    The 'Great Tribulation' starts after anti-Christ fulfills the 'abomination of desolation' inside the Temple, prophesied by Prophet Daniel. (Before that we also perceive that, anti-Christ will first make a peace treaty with Israel and allow them to rebuild their now 'third Temple'. And in the...
  4. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Matthew 24:29, depicts Christ's 2nd coming for His 'body' the 'church' in the 'first resurrection', will be after the tribulation of those days. Those included in them are ones who went through and came out of Great Tribulation. (Revelation7:14) Likewise ones who were beheaded for the witness...
  5. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    i disagree. Am not with this man made doctrine of some here about there's a 'true Israel', and a 'false Israel' as well apparently. From Isaac there's only one true Israel/Jacob and his descendants are from the 12 sons, the 12 tribes that resides in their promise land and nation Israel...
  6. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    i disagree. To me the 'first resurrection' is the 'rapture' of those dead in Christ and those who are living in Christ. Who'll be taken up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and taken to Heaven, and who shall reign with Christ a thousand years. On these 'second death' have no power...
  7. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Am humbled by your greeting, likewise to you in Jesus name. let's listen and pay attention to the Holy Ghost of the Lord, thank you. Those words don't appear in the scripture, then don't 'add' to GOD's word as false representation and that cause confusion. 'Israel' refers to the 'nation' of...
  8. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Hello little kid, you've got to grow up and stop reasoning like a kid based on one's imaginary. Verse 1, John sees the Lamb stood on the mount Zion with the 144,000, having His FATHER's name written in their foreheads. Verse 2, and John heard a voice from Heaven, and not a voice in Heaven...
  9. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    It's very sad too why the church unable to understand Christ given to Paul to serve us, the mystery about the 'unsaved Israel' according to Romans ch. 11. If we, beginning also with the remnant of Israel, were saved under the election of grace and through faith, the gift of GOD and not of...
  10. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    That's the truth and is written in the Holy Bible. Where are these words of yours written in the scripture?? But we cannot include 'all Israel' in bondage, because by the will of GOD, blindness in part has come upon them. And moreover too, deliberately GOD consigned them to disobedience for...
  11. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Readers, my defense is very clear scripturally and by doctrine, and nothing to hide. There are those who 'copy' and 'paste' our scripture to suite their denominational doctrine, while ignore what's truly of the Apostles' we're defending. Then when they're cornered, as 'escape artist' they...
  12. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Readers, am here for the scripture and sound doctrine of the Holy Bible. If you're going to post something outside the text and made up by men doctrine, we will expose that one is a 'liar' and GOD is the 'truth', period In return don't turn out to be a 'fox' and do the 'blame game' and...
  13. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You can't respond to the scripture that debunked your 'gibberish' and 'fallacy' claims, but rather want to get personal and likewise have a foul mouth too. Well am sent not to please 'bullies' and 'itching ears', so you're welcome to put me in your ignore list, thank you.
  14. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Only on 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' who 'twist' the scripture and sound doctrine of the Holy Bible repeatedly. You're kid and talking like kid about 'foul mouth' and who's way off just to get an escape artist's sympathy. You deliberately ignore the scripture and explanation in our defense...
  15. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Yes, and you too read, but you don't have the wisdom given from above to understand the context of the Holy Bible. Galatians 3: 16. Now to Abraham and his 'seed' were the promises made. He said not, And to 'seeds', as of 'many'; but as of 'one', And to thy 'seed', which is 'Christ'. 29. And if...
  16. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Just want to brush off your dirt rather, that the 'body of Christ' which are of faith, the sane are the children of Abraham. They are likewise Abraham's 'seed' one with Christ, because He's the Head and they the body and members of it, period. Where's your 'true Israel' in all of this??
  17. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    The 'first resurrection' takes places as the Great Tribulation comes to an end. After the resurrection of the church saints, Christ comes down with His angels to war against anti-Christ, the kings of the earth and their armies. In defeat, anti-Christ and the false prophet will be cast alive...
  18. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Again you're going off with your 'babbling', for 'elect' i understand, but 'seed' have nothing to do with 'them' as 'many'. 'Seed' or 'offspring', have got to do with a single person, and He is Christ, as promised to Abraham one of his 'offspring'. Paul himself verify that the 'seed' or...
  19. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    You and your denomination being wise in your own conceit, made that up and opposed to the scripture and sound doctrine of the Holy Bible. Israel stand on it's own, as the descendant of Jacob the nation, GOD's original concept of HIS people/children for their fathers' sake. From these...
  20. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6