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My point is just that Paul saw/heard things that apparently weren't in the bible. And I don't doubt his experience was of the Lord. But in teaching/preaching one should not go beyond with is written. And I agree there is no need to, because what we have been given in scripture is sufficient...

Well, for me, I'm talking about the latter. And I often use the words revelation and illumination interchangeably. Although when Paul went to the third heaven, he saw/heard things that he was not permitted to tell...that must mean what he saw/heard wasn't in scripture because I don't think...

The faith was once delivered, yes, the foundational things...but after that we grow in stages, or progressively. May I ask what your background or affiliation is.....eg,Baptist or Pentecostal....cessationist or charismatic etc.....? I wish there were a place on the avatar for people to put...

And deeper submission requires deeper understanding of what is written, would you agree? We often gloss over so many things in scripture without really understanding them, or we may see them only on a superficial, carnal or literal level until we gain more understanding. There are not "new...

I think you meant to say "without faith in Christ" there brother.....and I certainly agree. Epi must be talking about the time before Jesus came, or rather gleaning it from those earlier scrips.....but it's a mistake to try and apply the same in this age after Jesus died and rose from the dead...

By which mind are we are to love God though? I dont' think this is referring to our natural carnal mind of flesh...since we are told the carnal mind is enmity with God and that the natural man can't perceive/understand the things of God. So it must be talking about the renewed mind, the mind...

Yes, this caught my eye. We can be susceptible because of human emotions and loyalties. But Jesus said if we love mother, father, brother, sister, and even our own children more than Him we are not worthy of Him. There comes a point where we need to "separate from the herd" so to speak and...

I do understand it in my heart...you are preaching to the choir with that. But "in principle" means I don't agree with where you may be applying or attributing it in this thread.

Amen....looking into the mirror of God's word and seeing why we need Jesus! We are so lost without Him, heading for perdition and deservedly so. We need both the instruction and encouragement that comes from God's word, but oh my, it is also like fuller's soap when it shows us what we are, our...

I agree.... in principle at least. But we need to test all things...the devil does deceive and counterfeit the things of God.

Amen. That is the serpent's entire purpose as you are pointing out.....to lead souls to hell. Steal, kill and destroy. And if he can destroy the foundation of the faith, he destroys the faith - AKA apostasy - because God's word says,"what can the righteous do if the foundation be destroyed?"...

If we look at this man's testimony of how he came to believe in Christ.......that and everything together makes me wonder if he needs deliverance from his past involvement in new age. New agers have "experiences".....and the devil does indeed believe, except he comes only to deceitfully...

I think anyone who doesn't believe and affirm that faith in Christ is sound doctrine can't even be called a Christian. That is a gospel according to themselves....a false gospel.

Do you think Jesus, the Word made flesh, was talking about a literal mountain and sea? Are we still so hard of hearing? We need to understand from His written word what kind of mountain and sea He was referring to. If we have a new man and our old man is crucified with Christ then we HAVE...

The scripture says "we who believe HAVE entered His rest." And that our "new man HAS been created in righteousness and true holiness".....which is why we are admonished to "put on the new man". We can't put on or walk in what we haven't received. It's not figurative or hyperbole, it is simply...

Ah well, we do see things differently still. The truth is that those who have received genuine faith that is of God and from Him (not of our own) HAVE been made holy and HAVE entered His rest. That is Truth. Yes, a gift. "Facts" have to do with whether or how much we are apprehending and...

The experience of going from death to life, from darkness to light, from being separated from God (and therefore unable to perceive Him) to being reconciled to Him and knowing Him heart to heart, having Him revealed to your spirit, and going from no faith to genuine faith is hardly a superficial...

Power...."ye shall receive power when the Holy Ghost comes upon you." Spiritual gifts as the Spirit wills: Act 2:14-18 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to...

I see the two as being part of the same born again package. They are all being alluded to in that "one baptism" verse. Jesus told Nicodemus we must be born of water and the Spirit. Born again, water baptized and Spirit baptized....all one package so to speak.

An accomplice, yes I agree.....so we don't want to knowingly be party to someone's sin, even though we are not the one committing the sin. Associating with people doesn't mean we are to knowingly be party to their sinful activity. Though Jesus ate and drank with sinners, I highly doubt for...