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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    It's obvious and clear that the whole world is not reconciled to God, otherwise they would "know" Him and acknowledge Him. They would be able to perceive Him because when one comes to Christ and is reconciled to God He is revealed to the heart. and one enters into a living two-way relationship...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    As I said, observing and living in creation may cause the heart to open and seek the Lord, and He has promised that those who seek shall find. Act 17:24-27 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I'm not sidestepping anything. It's hard for this old gal to keep up with every single post/comment/point made on forums as well as keep up with life behind the computer screen. I've many times said that John is making the point that the atonement is available to not only the Jews, but...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The Lord is sovereign over even this, and He is just. Isn't mankind without excuse?.....what may be known of God can be seen in creation.....people whose hearts are inclined can seek the Lord and if/when they do He will answer them by some means. He has ways of stepping in and reaching the...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I don't dismiss those or any scriptures..........I endeavour to rightly divide and understand them, with the help of the Holy Spirit and in light of the whole counsel of God. Strange thing my friend, that in spite of Jesus having died and rose again for the sins of the whole world that the...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    You are continuing to isolate a single sentence there. That is not how to rightly divide scripture in general and what is being taught in that passage specifically as a whole. All fallen humans belong to Adam in that we were born of his flesh....that is why all die. But not all belong to...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    Do you need me to post the WHOLE passage again?
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    I have already explained it the best I can. And I don't believe you would accept it no matter how it is explained.....we need ears to hear what the Spirit is saying don't we. The whole passage is clearly talking to believers about believers. It is explaining salvation with respect to...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    Doesn't matter what anyone says, you will just continue choosing to ignore context and all the rest of scripture. Still waiting for you to answer my question, as you love to ask so many questions while not answering any. What does it mean to perish and what do other terms such as perdition...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    The words are there...."in Christ" is there. "Those who belong to Christ" is there. But we need ears to hear, I don't know how else to explain it.
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    The bible ALSO says justification is through FAITH....salvation is through FAITH in Christ. And that not all have this faith. This is another example of cherry picking and not rightly dividing the cherry picked passages together with the whole counsel of God..
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    What should we expect from God? - If it's not asking too much...

    There is a vast difference between trusting the Lord and thinking He "owes" us or anyone anything. "God so loved the world", yet He tells us to "love not the world" . So what "standard" are you talking about that we should "hold" God to?
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    Hoo boy. "....so IN CHRIST all will be made alive"... who are in Christ, which means who belong to Christ. All died who were in Adam, and it happens that literally all were in Adam (born of him) and that is why literally all died. That is not the case with Christ....not literally all mankind...
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    What should we expect from God? - If it's not asking too much...

    "Who are you o man to talk back to God?" "God so loved the world that He gave His only son that whosoever would believe on Him will have eternal life." He has shown as much love as it is possible to show and yet many reject His love sadly, so it's on them. But you and anyone who agrees with...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    1 Cor 15 is talking about "those who are Christ's at His coming"....the resurrection of life, not the resurrection of damnation.
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    God's character is such that He gave free will to men....and they are free to choose either death or life., to seek the Lord and Truth or not to. His character is pure and holy....He will not tolerate and dwell with the filth and iniquity of this world forever. As I already said you want to...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    The members of His body are called firstfruits in a slightly different sense than Christ.....As Christ was the firstfruits of the members of His body, through being the firstfruit sacrifice on behalf of believers, the members of His body go on to being a kind of firstfruits of all those they...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    Please read this entire passage in context....Paul is clearly addressing the resurrection of the dead and countering those who say there is no resurrection of the dead. Certainly it is true that we are spiritually made alive when we come to faith in Christ, but that is just not what is...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    We who believe have been made alive and redeemed spiritually....but we haven't been resurrected from the dead yet....our bodies haven't yet been redeemed, and that is what that chapter is discussing. The passage itself tells us what is meant by "each in turn".....Christ the firstfruits had to...
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    If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

    The whole context of that chapter is the resurrection of the dead. It is talking to and about Christians...reassuring believers that just as Jesus was resurrected from the dead, so will we also, who are in Christ. Death came upon all through Adam's line, who were born of him...