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Can that not be read and understood correctly ~ according to the exact text ~ as Satan being released to deceive the nations, yes, but is unsuccessful regarding any nation or anyone in or of those nations not already deceived? I mean, you may still disagree but if you are honest I think you...

Right. We don't. But He is portrayed that way not just in Revelation 20 but in other places in Scripture, even in the Old Testament ~ the angel of God, like: in Genesis 21:17, for instance: "the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for...

Nobody's overlooking anything, Davidpt. What I ~ and I think Spiiritual Israelite, but he can speak for himself ~ would say is, the rest of the world, the unsaved worshiping the beast is synonymous with what Paul says in Romans 1, that they, the unsaved, have "exchanged the glory of the...

Hmmmm... Let's focus on something else in this passage for just a moment, bdavidc. In verses 1-2 in Revelation 20, John says he "saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain," and this angel "seized the dragon, that ancient serpent...

Right, and I suggested no such thing. Any difference among Christians does not really answer to the text at all in and of itself, except to say that if there are two opposing views/understandings/interpretations of a text, then either one is right and the other wrong, or both are wrong. They...

I literally cannot tell you how much I don't care. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

It is. But okay, we disagree. Yes, I know. <smile> But you're not doing a good job. <smile> That was my point. One of them, anyway. <smile> In a sense, yes, because you're misusing it. Applying it where it really can't possibly be applied. It cannot. If something is asked and then...

Satan, David. The serpent is... was... Satan. LOL! Never heard that one before... <smile> Really just one, as Adam and Eve were one flesh, as all covenant married couples are, even today. And no, this does not mean they were (or we married people) are, one person, as you well know. <smile>...

Isn't it amazing how all these threads end up on the same two or three topics... Or maybe not so much. <smile> Grace and peace to you, Doug.

"Eternal questions in our lifetime"... that in itself is contradictory, really. I mean, come on: there's really no argument or debate, here, Wrangler. I know what you mean: remaining unresolved in this life, for any one of us in our lifetime here on earth. Maybe the more correct term to use...

i think you and SI would agree on this... And this... It is, yes... to many. <smile> But that does not mean, necessarily, that for others, they are not Christians. Right; we would agree on this, and SI does, too. It does. If you are a Gentile Christian as I am, then you are concrete proof...

Right... "nothing new under the sun" (Ecclesiastes 1:9). Right... "but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, Whom He appointed the heir of all things, through Whom also He created the world" (Hebrews 1:2); "You have laid up treasure in the last days" (James 5:3); "scoffers will...

No they're not... <smile> Important questions, for sure, but not eternal... <smile> Grace and peace to you both.

Well, right, but... <smile> ..."(God) says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, Who has mercy" (Romans 9:15-16). Right... God "is able to keep us from stumbling"...

Right. Well, right, but only a few will accept. You're talking about the general call of the Gospel, which, yes, is offered... goes out to... all. Yes, but regarding the few... God only calls ~ inwardly, by His Spirit ~ those few. And these, who are then born again of the Spirit, thus...

Well sure, but no need; you know, and we agree on this. But the very Biblical fact is, if one does "get born again," he or she will not fail to "run the race with endurance" and will not fall away from the Lord. And that is because he or she no longer has an evil, unbelieving heart and will...

Might want to read Ephesians 2 ~ "God... made us alive together with Christ⁠ ~ by grace you have been saved⁠ ~ and raised us up with Him and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus... by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of...

No, I wouldn't want to let what I think get in the way of God's Word, except to be in harmony with it. Which is the case with all of us, with regard to intent, certainly. But here in this conversation, that's only actually true of... some of us. <smile> On some things, in a certain sense...

Maybe, but I have confidence you could explain to him in terms that a four-year-old could understand... <smile> ...and probably should. <smile> That may very well be. I still think it's... something else <chuckles> ...with him, though. <smile> Grace and peace!

There are a few ~ a few ~ good things in here, but for the most part: Grace and peace to all.