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I had to delete most of your post to explain Rev 12. Rev 12 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (This was an cosmological event or sign for the nation of Israel.) 2 And she being...

Heb 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." From my perspective, our souls will not fully...

Why do you think that it is not also about the flesh? Isn't your statement at odds with Rev 20:6? Rev 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a...

I agree with your timing. The 7th Trumpet begins the Vials of God's wrath. This is the 3rd woe. This is when God pours out his wrath on those who have been killing his people. Compare Rev 11:19 with Rev 16:17-21 They are the same event! Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven...

Rev 13:1-5 1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." (Authority over this beast is not given to a nation, but is divided between 10 nations. That is...

Sorry, I must have misunderstood.

??? This is when the Millennium starts! Revelation 14 and Revelation 11:15 describe the same period of time. Revelation 14 and Revelation 11 both end at the Millennium. I can't find it. People saw Jesus go up and they will see the 2 witnesses go up. I think the 30 minutes of silence in Rev...

I don't see crowns on the people in Rev 7. Doesn't that mean that Jesus has not come for them. To me, this is the continuation of those found in heaven in the 5th seal, who also wear white robes, but don't have crowns. Rev 6:16 "And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from...

If that was true, we couldn't make any sense out of the Bible. Timelines do have gaps, but they are always in order. Thanks for helping with this metaphor. I believe that the reign of AC will have just ended at the time of Rev 6:13. Could this metaphor represent Israel throwing off the reign of...

I agree that God's wrath begins with the 1st Vial and that God's final wrath will be on the 7th Vial. The beast v God's 2 witnesses is the time known as the great tribulation which occurs before the 1st Vial. 1 Cor 15 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they...

There are 2 chronologies leading to the great tribulation in Rev 12. Chronology 1. Rev 12:1-5 describes the coming of Jesus in the first century which is followed in verse 6 with 1260 days of great tribulation. Chronology 2. Rev 12:7-13 describes the time of trumpets until verse 14, a time...

Isn't Jesus worship being forbidden represented by the removal of the Lamb sacrifice? "You have to be able to understand God speak." How does the AC transition from EU President to The Beast? I have addressed our differences in the 2-witness timeline. I can't find support for the CODE you...

Rev 11 does give details about what happens in Rev 9 because Rev 9, 10 and 11 are all inclusive in the 2nd woe. When the army of AC moves from the Euphrates River to Jerusalem, the 3.5-year countdown begins. I also agree that Rev 16 is another description of the 3rd woe, 7th trump. Rev 8:2...

The timing here is the last trump which is different from the trump in 1 Thes. Trump in 1 Thes is followed by the millennium, which is followed by the last trump. No rapture at the last trump. See post 207 for the full explanation. All of the dead will be in their graves. That's where we put...

Woe comes to the earth in the form of trumpets 5,6, and 7 because Satan has been cast to earth. Rev 8:13 "And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of...

Jesus does not come right at the end of the 70th week! The raising of the 2 witnesses into heaven is the sign of Jesus and that occurs at the end of the 70th week. This is God's intervention that ends the GT. People will turn to Jesus and not fear death or antichrist when they see the...

According to what you state, Jesus first harvest of the Second Coming is 2 billion during the seals. According to what you state, Jesus first harvest of the Second Coming is 2 billion during the trumpets. According to what you state, Jesus first harvest of the Second Coming is 2 billion during...

These people are before the throne, before the throne has come to earth. Therefore, they died. The order of events concerning God coming to earth is always God the Father and then God the Son. In the story that goes from Rev 7:1 - 8:5, God the Father doesn't come to earth as revealed by the...

Isn't the throne in heaven along with the sea of glass? This is before Jesus comes to earth. Rev 14:1-5 occurs before Jesus comes to earth in Rev 14:14. Rev 15:2-3 occurs before Jesus comes to earth in Rev 16:21 Matt 24:29 " Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be...

I agree with this. The period of great tribulation ends before the period of God's wrath begins. Satan is still around, but loses world dominion at the end of the great tribulation. I think you are reading too much into this. The day of Christ's coming is at the beginning of the millennial...