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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    It appears we are at an impasse. I have given all the reasons that this point of view is erroneous. Thanks for the discussion.
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I agree, but I don't really know what we will look like. We will shine like the stars of heaven. Please show me where the rapture is mentioned in 1 Cor 15 and where Jesus comes in secret 7 years before his second coming. I agree. 1 Thes contains the 'trump of God.' 1 Cor contains the 'last...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I got your point. My point is that no generation has died at a rate greater than 25% specifically as the result of a conqueror, through war, famine and pestilence. The remaining 75% of any generation has died from other causes. I agree that the seals follow the pattern of the Olivet Discourse...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Jesus was seen. The 2 witnesses will be seen. The change from mortal to immortal is not the rapture. I do not have your comfort level. It shows 'hereafter' doesn't have to jump to some point in the distant future as most believe. All that I have on this is that the tabernacle in Exodus was...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    You are correct in what you have stated about the crowns you mention. That does not negate the fact that the things on earth were made according to the pattern that already existed in heaven. I don't see the similarities that you do in the book of Joel. I agree that Matt 24:22 is about the...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    How do you interpret Matt 24:22? "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." 1 Thes 5:3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    The following things occur between the appearance of the Son of man in heaven and the Son of man coming in the clouds: Rev 6:14 "and every mountain and island were moved out of their places." Rev 8:4-5 "And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Covenantee said, "Little horn (kingdom) and king: The Roman papacy, governed by pope Gelasius I when the first of the three kings in Daniel 7:8,20,24, Odoacer of the Heruli, was overthrown in 493. The three kings overthrown ("subdued"): Odoacer of the Heruli in 493, Gelimer of the Vandals in...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Did anyone watch the YouTube video on this topic?
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    I was asking for evidence that people instantly vanish. Both Jesus and the 2 witnesses are visible when they are caught up until they disappear in the clouds. What do you say about Daniel 2 where hereafter referred both to the past, King Neb was already in charge for 2 years, and the present...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    But Jesus is not reigning on earth. Things are not yet on earth as they are in heaven. I am looking at the quint. 1 foot with 5 toes in the west. US, UK, Germany, France, Italy This leaves another foot for the middle east. Seleucia will return as did Israel after many centuries, Israel, Egypt...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    What is your evidence? The "fourth" part "to kill" is different than having power over all peoples and nations for 42 months. Matthew 24:22 describes what would have happened if AC were allowed to continue past the 42 months. "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    What is your evidence that the seals begin during the 70th week? Rev 6:9-11 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    The 6 stories have 1 conclusion, that is, they all come to the same end. Most stories do have different starting points and different facts.
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    Joel 2:31 and the 6th seal do match. I don't know if it's an asteroid that causes the earthquake, but there is an earthquake which ends the GT. At the time of this earthquake, the 2 witnesses rise from the dead and ascend into heaven. Heaven gets dark and then the 3rd heaven is revealed. The...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    We are clothed in heaven with new bodies. We also rejoin our bodies that will come up from the earth at the time Jesus returns. Both events are called resurrection. I believe 1 Thes 4 is the resurrection and rapture that occurs when Jesus returns with the trump (voice) of God. I believe 1 Cor...
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    7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

    The conqueror of the first seal is a lesser type of the noisome beast of Ezekiel 14:21, and the noisome beast is found in Dan 7. Rev 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Ez 14:21...