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  1. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Well, fortunately, your saying so doesn't make it so. And, for the record, I've never denied that God heals people miraculously, only that such healing is imparted in the Atonement to all born-again believers. As I've shown from Scripture, it isn't. But I haven't ever said that God doesn't...
  2. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    ??? Obviously, God's prescriptions concerning worship given in His word are to be applied to worship songs. His prescriptions form a "straight line" of right worship against which we are to compare all other "lines" to see how straight (or not) they are.
  3. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    See my earlier posts. Pretending I haven't already cited Scripture doesn't somehow negate that I have.
  4. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    And I told you - and showed you - that what I've said about proper worship of God is not opinion, but the plain statement of God's word. In this thread, I've been specifically speaking to the matter of praise and worship music, not the broader category of Christian music which can encompass...
  5. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    This is the sort of silly conclusion one will come to when one doesn't know how to reason well. See above. Paul asked God three times to remove the "thorn" in his flesh. Why? Because the first two times God said "No." Obviously. Instead, of doing as Paul wanted, God told Paul His grace was...
  6. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    No, healing in the Atonement is false. I showed why from God's word. Just flatly contradicting what I showed doesn't do anything to establish I'm mistaken in understanding God's word, or that you're correct in your belief about healing. You're just contradicting. This is no more than children do...
  7. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    ??? If this is the limit of your response to what I wrote, I have nothing more to write to you. I'm not wasting time and effort on discussions that garner such flip and dismissive replies.
  8. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Please read carefully what I already wrote. What do you think Romans 12:1 is saying about the matter of worship? Is Paul enjoining us to be "living sacrifices" only on Sunday morning? Why does he say that being such a sacrifice is worship? Well, I think you'd be closer to the mark to say that...
  9. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    There are many such verses. Do you not know them? John 4:23-24 23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in...
  10. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Actually, (I don't mean to be rude, here) but you're the one guilty of false equivalence. You've made John's prayer for Gaius equivalent to Nichole's "worship song" which, as I've pointed out, it isn't. Strangely, you even acknowledge the difference: See? John's written prayer, directed at a...
  11. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Yes, I'm quite aware of the topic of the thread. But within the discussion of the thread's main topic other sub-topics have been broached. So, I just wanted to be clear on which topic you meant. Why, the sarcasm? I haven't been contending in this thread over a particular sort of music that's...
  12. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    What is the "this" you mean? That God's word is the Final Word on things pertaining to Christian living? Or that His word is the Final Word on what constitutes proper praise of Him? Or do you mean something else?
  13. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    @Behold wrote: "Do you understand that John was offering a Prayer of God's favor? And this verse is usually taught, by taking out the name "Gais" and is just taught as a universal prayer for the entire body of Christ. So, the song lyrics are Katy Nichole doing the same."...
  14. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    I don't understand how you think this is a persuasive counter to what I pointed out about the false belief of "healing in the Atonement." Basically, all you've done here is contradict, which is what cantankerous children on the playground do in argument with one another. Simply asserting that...
  15. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Nope. Fact. God says so. His word is the Final Word, the objective, authoritative "straight line" by which all crooked lines are discerned. Now, you may dismiss this reality as mere opinion, but this no more changes that reality or dissolves it than you dismissing the Law of Gravity as "opinion"...
  16. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    No. The rightness of praise is ajudicated by the truth of God's word, not opinion.
  17. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    It was the apostle John who wrote this to Gaius, not Paul, as you asserted. (3 John 1:1-2) And John did not offer this remark to Gaius as a "worship song," performed before hundreds or thousands, did he? No, he didn't.
  18. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    But the song doesn't do this, actually. It doesn't give any praise to God for answering the singer's prayers. It's just a song about all that the singer will do by way of prayer for another person. 1 Peter 3:12 12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto...
  19. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    I don't think anyone in this thread thinks we shouldn't sing praises to the Lord. But what passes as such these days is, I think, far from actual praise of the Lord.
  20. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Yes, lost folk are being saved today. And in the odd instance, God still heals miraculously. Sometimes, too, he frees people from demonic oppression and possession. But raising the dead? No. And there are no apostles living today; for there haven't been any since the first (and only) apostles...