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  1. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    I'm not sure how this responds to what I pointed out and asked... Paul wrote Romans 8:14 to Christians. Why would he do that if, simply by virtue of being born-again, they were already being led of the Spirit? And he doesn't say in Romans 8:14 that those not led of the Spirit are not of God. If...
  2. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    Well, it indicates that while they may live in the Spirit (i.e. they're saved), they have not yet begun to walk in (live in constant submission to, and joyful, holy fellowship with) the Spirit. (Ga. 5:25). Though Paul called the Corinthian believers "spiritual babes" and "carnal" and divisive...
  3. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    How does a song articulating the sorts prayers the singer will make for others constitute worship and praise of God? Yes, it's appropriate to pray to God about our needs. But God says repeatedly to us in His word that our willful sin plugs up His ears to our prayers. So, then, the singer's...
  4. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    Well, the song Nichole sang was very typical of modern "Christian" music: Very occupied with the individual Christian and their experience and actions rather than with God and His awesome nature, character and will. Quite frankly, if I don't know what the character is of a person's walk with...
  5. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    1 Corinthians 6:12-20 12 All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet the body is not for immorality...
  6. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    Being indwelt by the Holy Spirit by no means guarantees spiritual wisdom and holiness. See 1 Corinthians 3:1, Galatians 3:3, Revelation 2-3, 1 John 1:8, etc.
  7. Kokyu

    The devil's lie in Christian music

    2 Peter 2:1-3 1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality...
  8. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    Is this your roundabout way of asking me what I understand of being a joint-heir with Christ? Why not just ask me straight out what my view is instead of playing this rhetorical game with me? It was a widespread problem in the Early Church that the spiritual identity of believers was not well...
  9. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    ??? You're doing here what you've been doing with God's word. You have no good ground to assert this at all. You have only a very tiny piece of what I know and understand of God and His word and yet, though you are entirely ignorant of the vast undisclosed mountain of what I do know and...
  10. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    This is just avoiding defending your statements by being patronizing. Do you really think condescension is a good argument for your assertions? ??? Have you actually read the immediate context of the verse you offered in which Jesus explicitly and directly addressed Peter (and only Peter)...
  11. Kokyu

    JOHN 15:1 THE TRUE VINE

    Hmmm... I pointed out that in John 15:1-8, Jesus was telling his disciples to be saved, which he described as "abiding in me." He was telling them this because they would, after his atonement on Calvary, have to trust in his sacrifice for their sins, just as anyone after the cross had to do in...
  12. Kokyu

    JOHN 15:1 THE TRUE VINE

    It's not just that I say there is no difference; there is no difference in the Greek. As I pointed out, its the same Greek word - klauthmos - that is used both for "wailing" and for "weeping." In any case, you haven't demonstrated from Scripture that there are two different destinations in...
  13. Kokyu

    JOHN 15:1 THE TRUE VINE

    Well, if you believe this, you'll have to explain how salvation was possible without the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross. If being saved was achievable without his atonement, as you're suggesting, then why did Jesus have to die? I'm guessing you're a hyper-dispensationlist... You'll...
  14. Kokyu

    JOHN 15:1 THE TRUE VINE

    I find its helpful in understanding this passage to remember when it was spoken by Jesus. When he described himself as the Vine and his disciples as branches in him, he had not yet died on the cross and no one - not even his own disciples - were yet justified, sanctified and redeemed in the...
  15. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    The proof-text above doesn't instruct anyone to bind the devil from working in peoples' lives. Jesus was just stating a simple and obvious fact that, if you want to rob a strong man, you've got to incapacitate him first. How is this instruction about prayer? It just isn't. Instead, Jesus was...
  16. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    There is a place for urging folks to turn from their sin and live for God, but God says in His word that these things arise from loving Him with all of one's being. This is His First and Greatest Commandment, actually (Matt. 22:36-38) and is where living for the Lord begins. Maybe, then, you...
  17. Kokyu

    ?How can you know who the "TRUE" believer is?

    *Shrugs* Ookay...
  18. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    I don't understand how you got this from what I wrote... ??? Again, I don't see how this responds to what I pointed out. I've not suggested that people shouldn't walk with the Lord and forsake sin. Uh...okay... Is this what they said was the cause of their departure from the faith? These...
  19. Kokyu

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    Yes, this is the most awful thing that can happen to a person. But examining their reasons for throwing off their "faith" (I use scare quotes very purposefully here) is helpful in what way? All that the examples you gave demonstrate is the poor thinking and ignorance prompting their apostasy and...
  20. Kokyu

    ?How can you know who the "TRUE" believer is?

    ??? So... you're just trolling, then?