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You're hatred seething out of you reveals the fruit of the spirit at work with your views.

Nope, you're wrong about lumping me into that camp I don't even want to argue this topic but the bias posters have an agenda. I am a newcomer to this thread. The earlier parts of the thread If 5 scriptures are there no one has replied to my posts with relevant scripture except for one that I saw...

That is the pre wrath view. Noted.

Wrong and out of context that is speaking to the Jews not the church. Try again.

For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming...

I've given you two scriptures and you've given me none. The score is 2-0

But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:8‭-‬9 NIV The context is reguarding the...

The Darby notion is just propaganda and is the most trite and illogical thing I've ever seen.

See post #62 And provide me with a scripture that proves pre trib false

So you disagree with scripture: at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

I understand the context that they don't.

Pretribers believe the beheadings will happen, mostly to those who find faith after being left behind.

That's the only way I read the Bible.

I agree dual covenant is unbiblical However, there is too much scripture that points to pretrib for it to be called false teaching.

Amen brother!

The great tribulation will come (second 3 1/2 years) but we won't be around for it or the 1st half.

Pretribers don't believe everyone will avoid persecution. In fact they believe that millions of saints will be beheaded for their testimony. You're getting hung up on the word tribulation. Instead look up the 70th week of Daniel, the time of Jacobs trouble. (Actually confusing the general word...

Thank you for being respectful. For those reading I would assert that they do it devoid of love because it is not the spirit of love at work and with little scriptural support because it's not the spirit of truth at work.

My question was, what is harmfull about pretrib doctrine which you have not answered.

For the record I believe dual covenant theology is false, but so is replacement theology.