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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, All the teachings of Christ under the New Covenant are spiritual. Those teachings must be applied within a person and not out into the world. To understand those teachings, Christ must heal a person's spiritual blindness. The Old Covenant is different. Its teachings...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST... Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, the old is better. The Old Wine represents the blood of the animal sacrifices of the Old Covenant of Law. The Old Covenant is man's attempt to be acceptable to Christ by...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST... After Christ gives His gift of the Early Rain of the Spirit to a person, they will no longer be able to reject Him. Even with just a measure of the Spirit, an unbeliever will become a “called out” believer and will confess that Jesus is their Lord. 1 Cor...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear AuntyJane, You asked: Which is why I have to ask....what then is your big picture? Why are we here? What went wrong, and how does God fix it, whilst still keeping to his original purpose? I'm sure you want a short answer to those questions but a short answer really isn't possible when it...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, The sun being darkened during the conversion process is strictly a spiritual event. In those scriptures, the "sun" is a spirit word (symbol) which has its own meaning. That meaning must be found by comparing its usage in other scriptures (as you agree). If the sun...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, There is no doubt that the "sun" symbolizes Christ and there are many scriptures that clearly state this truth. But there some scriptures that also use the sun in a negative way. The "sun" used in those scriptures clearly doesn't represent Christ. So who does the...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, Let me try to remove what you see as my mixing of metaphors and symbolism. Here is what I see: Christ teaches the converted Elect in His spiritual language. In that language, Christ uses spirit words which have meanings that are spiritually discerned by comparing...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, Satan and Christ are both represented by the Sun: The "sun" mentioned in the three verses below represent Satan: Isa 24:23 Then the (natural) moon shall be confounded, and the (natural) SUN ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, The 1Cor 15:51-54 and 1Thes 4:13-18 scriptures are not teaching about the second coming of Christ when He spiritually converts an Elect believer. Those verses are teaching about the bodily resurrection from the grave which happens at the literal end of this age. The other...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear AuntyJane, You said: I used to believe my mainstream church’s beliefs too, until it dawned on me that most of what they had as their foundational beliefs, did not originate from Scripture, but from the Roman Catholic church.....a corrupt counterfeit created by the devil......nothing taught...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, I agree with your statement. Satan masquerades as Christ and copies Him. Satan --> man of sin/minister of Satan/Seven Headed Beast with Ten horns and Ten crowns --> indwelt by the spirit of anti-Christ Christ --> child of God/First Fruits/heirs/saints --> indwelt by...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, The Hebrew gematria is not a part of God's Word and should not be used to understand the meanings of the numbers used in scripture. This is how Paul says to understand Christ's spirit words: 1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Aunty Jane, I used to have a similar understanding of God's Word as most of the people on this forum have. I even taught end-time prophecy in the last church I attended. My understanding of end-time prophecy back then was in-line with the mainstream church teachings (like yours). But on...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST... As for this verse that you quoted: Mat 24:3 As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming,and of the end of the age?” The events being...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Aunty Jane, The New Covenant teachings are spiritual and the spirit words that Christ uses carry meaning that are different than what mankind wisdom teaches. 1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, Christ will cause EVERYONE to repent of their "works" and turn to Him. No one will be lost. 2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Dear Stewardofthemystery, I read your posts and I agree with a good part of what you presented. It adds a little to what I presently believe. Here is my summarized understanding: Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns (as in the beginning of Rev 17): This beast represents man. Seven Headed Beast...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, Your understanding is not supported by the scriptures I posted. The only people who "overcome" are the Elect and they "overcome" only because Christ causes it to happen. Christ causes it to happen when He returns. If a believer dies before Christ comes a second time to them, then...
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    Why many Christians will be deceived by Satan

    Dear Hobie, All new believers will be deceived and enter the apostate church. The apostasy began shortly after Paul death and is not some future "end-time" event. The spirit of anti-Christ entered the world before the Apostle John died. He even clearly said that the "last days" were already...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Dear Ritajanice, I want to leave you with three scriptures to consider: Jer 33:3 ‘Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.’ 1Sam 12:17 Is it not wheat harvest to day? I WILL CALL UNTO THE LORD, and he shall send thunder and RAIN; that ye...