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    Proof that Jesus is God

    JW, Arians, Muslims, etc all claim that Jesus is a created being, rather than Deity. Yet, they do not realize the very serious problem they create for themselves in so believing and teaching. They deny their own salvation in so doing, consider: The Bible says: Joh_8:24 I said therefore unto...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Please explain how I am 'reading into' the word "us/we" as a plurality of persons, or 'reading into' the word "me" as a singularity of person? The words "us/we" are inherently plurality of persons. It's as simple as a common dictionary. The same goes for "me". Secondarily, you are making an...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    I know, simple to read the continuing context of the verse, huh, and not merely stop short of understanding at the comma as several here do? This text (cited out of context by Arians, Muslims, Atheists, etc): Num_23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Deals with unchanging in character, consider the context: Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Psa 102:27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end. Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    That is what I said, "No, it proves the Son is not the Father,"
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    No, it proves the Son is not the Father, for you swap definitional terms, and are unequal in your assertion. In other words you use a proper name in comparison with a nature/position. That is incorrect comparison. I can rightly say that the Son is not the Father. I can even say that Jesus is...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    I know you reject it "out of hand", because that is your foundational bias, your predetermined and incorrectly taught a priori, that cannot be demonstrated from scripture, though I have demonstrated my position, quite clearly, of which you are not even going to attempt to address, and thus it is...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    No, both are equally important. The "our/we" etc refer to multiple persons, while the "me" refers to one of those persons. It is really simple when one does not deny the plurality of persons present. It's like saying, "Our forum is filled with heretics, but they do not affect me." Did you...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    I was referring to the nature. Yet consider: 2Co_5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    See Philippians 2. The Son gave up (laid it aside, not using) something to rely upon the Father by the Holy Ghost. Mat 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Appeal to strawman. I have said probably over 9 times now, I am not "trinitarian", nor advocating that heresy. Scripture teaches the eternal heavenly Trio. The Son has two natures, even as Philippians, etc., says: Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Php 2:6...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Who said anything about superceding? Why not consider it is complimentary instead, meaning both (singulars and plurals) are to be understood and considered when addressing the nature of Deity as provided in scripture? To merely consider the singular and to brush aside the plurals (even if...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    The context of John 1:18 is a reference to the Person/Being of the Father, not the Son, even as John makes this clear in a parallel text: Joh_6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. So, the text of John 1:18 does not mean that no man on...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Continuing: [3] It is not a teaching text (non-didactic text); actually Thomas made a mistake when he said, “My Lord and my God.” The first part of this “explanation” ignores the following text: 2 Timothy 3:16 KJB - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Again, strawman of "trinitarians". Why not just address the texts and argument, rather than make an ad hominem? Let's look at the text: [12-E] My Lord and my God John 20:26 KJB - And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Jesus is the true Israel, and it is the Person/Being of the Holy Ghost who says so: Jesus is Israel (Matthew 2:13-15,19-21; Hosea 11:1; his children are his disciples; Hebrews 2:13; Isaiah 8:16,18; John 13:33), the true "overcomer" (John 16:33; Revelation 3:21), the real "Prince" with God...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    What about when 'God' is referred to by plural ones? "Elohiym" (Genesis 1:1 HOT, etc) x (a lot) (true plural, 3 or greater form) "us" x 4 (plural pronoun), "our" x 3 (plural pronoun): Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the...
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    A total misunderstanding of Christianity, and the Bible. Christianity and the Bible teaches that humanity died, not divinity. No wonder you are in the error you are in.
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    Are you sure you aren't being figurative? :rolleyes:
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    Proof that Jesus is God

    I have already proven there is no such thing as "the LXX". Here (please read and consider carefully the material therein): Proof that Jesus is God Additionally, what is cited as "the LXX" is not actually a translation of the original Hebrew text, but is a back-scribing (post 150-200 AD) from...