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  1. Phoneman777

    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    1 Thess. 4, especially verse 14, proves nothing of the kind, as detailed below: Was David in heaven? Peter says he was yet buried. Did Job expect to go to heaven at death? No, he said he'd wait in the grave "until Thy wrath be past" which when Jesus comes "in flaming fire taking vengeance" on...
  2. Phoneman777

    The "Millenium Rule" SCRIPTURES ONLY thread

    "...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" should be enough to convince anyone of a literal reign with Christ for a thousand years. The debate should be over WHERE this reign will be: down here or up there. The evidence if overwhelming that it's up there.
  3. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Man, all that from a "woman with only a third grade education"!
  4. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    It's very possible, considering there will be shocked people who will argue with Jesus that they "prophesied in Thy name", but will be lost, nonetheless. I think one of the most important fruits of the spirit is self control - because temptation comes at us like a whirlwind and some of us are...
  5. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Doctrinal consensus doesn't equal doctrinal consistency. For instance, people will correctly interpret the word "day" in the book of Daniel as a literal "year" - "day" being as symbolic as the beasts, heads, horns, etc.) but when they get over to Revelation, they want the days to mean literal...
  6. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Wow! I'm an Adventist because I came home from the first Gulf war to find my COMPLETELY IRRELIGIOUS father talking about the Bible and what turned out to be SDA doctrine. Having grown up Baptist in the South and told from a very young age that the wicked will burn for all eternity in hellfire...
  7. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Respectfully, we teach that the majority of God's born-again, spirit-filled people are NOT SDA, but are in "Babylon", and when God calls them, they will "come out of her, MY PEOPLE" just as His people came out of ancient Babylon. "Babylon" means "spiritual confusion" and we believe most...
  8. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    It's necessary to point out church history because that's where Biblical error arises - but we can all improve on how it's done.
  9. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Well, considering the papacy is the Antichrist of Bible prophecy, one would expect staunch opposition to their teachings and leadership - however, catholic laity, I'm sure, is doing the best they can with what they've been told, and that's why SDAs reach out to them whenever we can.
  10. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Sad to hear...that's why the old negro spiritual went, "don't ya let nobody turn you around".
  11. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    I see a lot of people scoffing at the idea of world political and religious leaders bowing down to a papal Antichrist in control of the world via a satanic network of Jesuit-controlled secret societies, but I ain't mad. Even the disciples were still confused about what Jesus had repeatedly told...
  12. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    I don't mind criticism if people are willing to try and back it up - but that's rare seeing that most Christians think consensus determines truth, no matter how much it contradicts Scripture.
  13. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    People don't realize the leaders of the world already recognize the Pope as leader.
  14. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    3 1/2 years is how many days? 1,260 days. What is the literal meaning of a symbolic day in prophecy? A year. The Reformers were CORRECT in calculating the reign of the papacy would be 1,260 years, from 538 to 1798, as Wesley's commentary on Revelation 13 affirms - you can read it online...
  15. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    I appreciate your attention to details, and we need more of that, so thank you. What teachings of the SDA church constitute error? The Sabbath? It's in the 4th commandment. Prohibition against eating unclean meat? Isaiah says when Jesus comes with fire at the Second Coming, those who heard...
  16. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Why should that alarm anyone? It's already happened in history, where Sunday legislation was enforced in the land FOLLOWED BY PROHIBITION AGAINST "JUDAIZING" SATURDAY AKA KEEPING THE SABBATH. Anyone who refused to do so was at first not permitted to buy and sell, and those who persisted in...
  17. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    Yes, but too many people aren't willing to let facts get in the way of their dogmas.
  18. Phoneman777

    Seventh-day Adventist

    I'm a proud member of the SDA church and can defend every one of our core beliefs from Scripture alone, as well as defend the Scripturally substantiated teaching of Protestant Historicism which identifies the Roman catholic papacy as the Antichrist of Bible prophecy. The Whore of Babylon has...
  19. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    The 6th Trumpet started sounding while Jesus is still ministering in the Holy Place, which means it started sounding BEFORE 1844. The Seventh Trumpet has the Ark of the Covenant seen, which means Jesus has moved into the Most Holy Place...therefore, the Seventh Trumpet coincides with the Day of...
  20. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    I'm pretty sure God's own hand of judgment was against the Earth during the Flood ("I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the Earth...).