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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear Timtofly, You said: You posted the definition. You need to keep free will as the ability to choose, free of any external manipulation whatsoever. The "works" of Christ are spiritual "works" and they happen "within" mankind. They are not external manipulations. When Christ does His...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb: You are not listening to this scripture: Isa 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You are completely misunderstanding what Paul is teaching in chapter 7. Paul is addressing why the natural man cannot follow the Law. Paul is not saying that he walks by the flesh. He is only teaching why the natural man does. When Paul finished his teaching, He ends it by...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, Paul says that truth is "spiritually discerned". If it is spiritually discerned, then it cannot be understood with the carnal mind. Paul also says that the Holy Spirit teaches us the language of Christ because the words used in scripture don't mean the same thing as what "man's...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You asked: Did not Paul write extensively of his daily dying to himself in his struggles against his flesh? Yes, Paul died daily to His flesh. This means that He did not walk according to his flesh but walked according to the Spirit. After a believer is fully converted and...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You asked: And where does Scripture tell us that after conversion a believer with eyes that can see, no longer receives truth which comes from the natural world? Here is where Christ teaches it: Mark 8:15 And he charged them, saying, take heed, beware of the leaven of the...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb: You asked: And where might I read the Word telling me the faithful must first have a final judgment experience as a final part of our conversion? Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You asked: Where in Scripture can I find confirmation that believers receive a new heaven and new earth the moment of conversion? The New Heaven and the New Earth which mankind is to receive as an inheritance are not literal places in which we will live at some future time. The New...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You said: So for you nothing of Scripture is physical, but rather all is mystical and spiritual? Scripture is written in the spiritual language of Christ. Isa 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear Timtofly, Mankind's ability to make choices is not in question in scripture. What is in question is whether or not those choices are made freely by the individual or by God's direction. Consider computers; they make choices frequently but no one would say that a computer has free will...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, A believer must receive the New Heaven and New Earth FIRST. If old heaven and earth are destroyed first, the believer would not have a spiritual nature or mind and will be perished. In Rev 21:1-5, John recorded that all he could see was a New Heaven and New Earth. He makes no...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb, You seem to be trying to correct me on truths which I already believe. I believe: Christ is the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a spiritual Kingdom. When Christ pours out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon us, Christ enters us and governs us. This is our moment of salvation. At that...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear rwb: The Kingdom of Heaven is spiritual and it occurs within a person. When it comes, it is the person's moment of salvation. Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear ewq1938, Most believers do not find life in this age because this age is for the harvesting of ONLY the First Fruits. The are "few": Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. The "many" who are "called" is the church (the called out ones). Most of the believers in the church...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear ewq1938, You do not understand how Christ saves mankind. We all must be destroyed spiritually so that we can be "born again". Because of this truth, no man escapes judgment. Mark 9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt. Luke 12:49 “I...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear Spiritual Israelite, Having the ability to make "choices" DOES NOT mean mankind as a "free will". Here is the definition of FREE WILL: the power or capacity to choose among alternatives or to act in certain situations independently of natural, social, or divine restraints. Mankind has...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear Spiritual Israelite, You said: Scripture very clearly teaches that it was God's will to send His Son to die for the sins "of the whole world" (1 John 2:2) and nothing could stop that, but it's His desire that all people would be saved, and yet not all people are saved (and scripture doesn't...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear Spiritual Israelite, Why do you believe there is a difference from what God's "wills' and what God "desires"? Here is what scripture says: Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? And what his soul desireth, that will he do. Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear David in NJ, The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to destroy the carnality of the believer. Here is what scripture teaches about Christ's judgment: Prov 28:5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things. All mankind is evil and because of such...
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    If you have read the book of Revelation, and not understood something, you have read wisely (thoughts?)

    Dear David in NJ, Of course, I don't believe that the Devil and His children are welcome in the Kingdom of Heaven. For that reason, Christ is going to destroy them through His judgment. Do you not understand what conversion is? The natural man who is a child of the Devil must be destroyed...