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neither is the word trinity found in the Bible, but the concept is there. it's really quite simple. now slap yourself on the forehead and go have a V-8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zstJj1pcC-I&feature=related since late 2011 and well into 2012 there have been strange trumpet sounds in the atmosphere. these sounds seem like a warning of the coming apocalypse. but what could they really be? discuss..

sooo fascinating!!

i find it fascinating that our Lord had a body before he was born as Jesus. i'm learning that his name Jehova means pre incarnate Christ. the part that boggles my mind is Jehova having a body before he was born into mankind with an earthly body. it's fascinating because when Jesus was born what...

what a coincodence that the people who don't believe in a rapture are the same who show little fruit of the spirit. the fact that there is a common hostility towards the rapture leads me to believe in it more. it seems like satan is just trying to get people to be hostile against the rapture.

how do i know he's not the one who's lying or twisting the truth?

i have read some writings of the early church fathers where they taught a pre trib rapture. Ephraim the syrian wrote in AD 373: because all saints and the elect of the Lord are gathered together before the tribulation which is about to come and be taken to the Lord. Cyprian, Tertullian, and...

how should we prepare then veteran if the rapture doesn't happen?

good scripture jlb.

so you're one of those people who believe jews to be pagans?? shame on you veteran..

well veteran, although they have it wrong about their belief of the messiah, we still read the same torah..

listen to yourself. christianity didn't come from judaism, but Christ was a jew and so was josephus. seems like you're a fool. oh and it says ye shall know them by their fruits and that the greatest of these is love. you are the least loving person on these boards. time to check yourself...

no reason to be antisemetic veteran.

this^ was the post that came across as hostile but that's ok, i forgive you. ;)

why so hostile? i'm not making up a new doctrine. the bible is the final answer. i get my answers from there. for example, when i said i enterpreted those verses in luke as someone being taken away for judgement, i came to that conclusion by going back and reading the verses before them and...

who said i believe everything that comes out of the pre trib camp? where did i say that i'm even 100% pre trib myself. i've supported the idea and am open to it. the foolish mind comment is also illogical if i'm wrong about a pre trib rapture to begin with. i love you veteran, but the truth is i...

congradulations veteran. you have officially made a fool of yourself. read my post #132 where i state that my enterpretation of those verses in luke is someone being removed for judgement..

no problem. i have a jewish flag hanging up in my dads bedroom. i don't hide the fact that i bless the people of israel. God blesses me bcause of it.

all you do is answer questions with more questions. i've answered yours and yes i've supported the idea of a pre trib rapture now can you answer my questions? (honestly we don't disagree on most subjects but you seem to beat around the bush instead of getting to the point)

hey retrobyter, just wanting you to know that i've got your back. i'm not arguing with these antisemetic types but i'm still watching.