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thanks veteran. it would give me a headache to have to type that much. and i never focused much on the peace and safety and suddenly destruction thing. i wish i had now. i'm gonna go do a study on that asap.

elysian., it's like prism said. just watch Israel. you'll see plenty of signs..

we are surely living in exciting times. Christ could come back in our lifetimes!! this is so exciting for me. I think of and anticipate his return every day.

thanks prism. it's nice to see posters around here that aren't neck deep in apostacies.

that's not even anywhere near the same passage of scripture. why does the bible refer to christians as sheep and Jesus as a lamb? does that mean christians and Jesus are the same thing? only an idiot would fall for your misleading post. oh and it was concerning saved jews not unbelieving jews...

thanks prism. it's encouraging to see a Bibe believing christian in this thread.

and then the Lord will divide the gentiles up matt 25 like sheap and goats, those who clothed his brethren the jews will live. God will rebuke the others.

on the topic of replacement theology, it is the people who believe it on these threads who need to do the explaining since you are the ones who claim that God's promises to Israel have been replaced. here's scripture, "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you!!" do you...

ok. well when the Lord Jesus comes back he'll straighten out which one of us are wrong. how bout that.

actually no, that's not what i was refering to. here's a verse: 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons that puts it in a nutshell.

good. thanks aspen..

just saw a priest on tv who is for abortion. that's apostacy right in your face!!!

thanks for helping with my thread prism. nice to meet you. um, and aspen, you are speaking as if truth were subjective. In the end God will decide what is and what isn't an apostacy or reformation, and what you consider reformation will be quite irrelivent. oh and aspen. i won't appologies for...

also known as the falling away from the Lord's doctrine to the doctrine of demons. i'll list three apostacies that i have come in contact with: 1) prosperity docrtine: the belief that with enough faith you will prosper and that if you suffer, you simply have a lack of faith. this is the same...

so if you don't believe in the rapture then when do you believe Christ gathers his church and meets them in the air?

sounds good to me..

persons refers to people on an individual level not on a national level such as a whole race of people. so please stop taking that verse out of context. israel as a nation are Gods chosen nation. that is all.

your posts sound like a bunch of antisemetic rederict. and guess what. abraham, issac, and jacob were israelites. so were king david, the twelve apostles, the virgin marry, and Jesus himself. are you getting it? the Bible is full of hebrews who God chose. the Messiah himself was born through...

buzzfruit, are you trying to say that the jews are children of Satan? buzzfruit explain this statement from your post: If Jesus lived in our time in the U.S He would have been labeled as a self-hating Jew or if He was a gentile He would be called a anti-Semite

all good posts. i knew we could get this thread going. thanks to all for discussing this with me. kiitos.