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  1. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Thank you for posting this, some of which I plan to incorporate in a sermon I wrote up this morning. I especially enjoyed your point about the verse in Revelation, "smoke ascendeth up forever and ever" which is one of the "proof texts" used by the Eternal Torment crowd to "prove" their position...
  2. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    If the wages of sin is death... and "death" = "eternal torment"... what would Jesus have to do to take our place and pay our penalty for sin? That's right...Jesus would have to be eternally tormented. Is He presently suffering eternal torment? No, He didn't suffer "eternal torment" - He...
  3. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Don't worry...all heretics will eventually be burned up and out of existence in Fire Lake when they are annihilated in the Second Death which will be a permanent death, an eternal death, a death from which there will be no resurrection. "If any man hateth his brother he is a murderer, and ye...
  4. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    For anyone interested in a Biblically based study on The State of the Dead and The Reward of the Wicked, please feel free to view the following videos: AFTER DEATH, THEN WHAT? WHEN AND WHERE IS HELL?
  5. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    You said, "We either have that glory and honor (and immortality, right, Robert?) to be with Jesus forever now, or we don't:" "Glory" and "honor" and "immortality" in the context of Romans 2:6-8 KJV refers to things which we seek for because we don't possess them at this present time, friend! A...
  6. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    Once again, you relegate "death" as limited to the "body" only...I've shown you numerous times that Jesus Himself said a "soul" can be destroyed along with the body in hell, the "soul that sinneth shall die" and that a soul can be saved "from death". Unfortunately, since you've been seduced by...
  7. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    You see, this is why we don't get anywhere - you keep misrepresenting Scripture. The Resurrection happens "at the last day" when Jesus said "the hour is coming when ALL who are in their graves shall hear the voice of the Son of Man" and shall come forth, which Paul says happens when "the Lord...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    I've been trying but you keep calling "black" as "white". Because the Bible says souls die - why can't you understand that "death" means exactly what it is: "the cessation of life"? A "living soul" is comprised of a body and the breath of life. When Abraham died, the Spirit returned to God...
  9. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    You claim dead Abraham literally said "Lazarus is comforted" - that is a direct praise of "the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost" who has come to give us everlasting comfort. Now, to prove that you're not simply resorting to extreme pettiness, here's your opportunity to agree with me and the...
  10. Phoneman777

    Natural Theology of Mortal Souls

    When searching for truth, focusing on a verse that everyone chooses to ignore is not "poor exegesis" - it's just good sense...and criticism of another's position without a Bible reference to back it up is a poor excuse for argument. A soul comes into existence and continues to exist only as a...
  11. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    I've repeatedly told you in the OSAS crowd that God is a Gentleman Who will neither sit down nor continue to occupy the throne of a man's heart without that man's consent. It is you guys in the OSAS crowd who say once Jesus takes up residence in a man's heart, He can never be evicted. That...
  12. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    Is sin the nature of the "old man" or the "new creature in Christ Jesus"? A true Christian will always answer "old man". What say you? When it comes to those who've accepted Christ, never confuse the "Just Man" who trusts Jesus to cover him with His grace while "striving against sin" -- and...
  13. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    When the Bible plainly says the dead don't praise the Lord because they've gone down into silence and you claim the dead not only praise the Lord but can do all sorts of other things, you haven't "explained" anything, just denied truth. When you've been shown that you can't impose the meaning...
  14. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    The reason you Paradise was at the center of the Earth when Jesus died is because you don't understand Jesus' words on the Cross in Luke 23:43 KJV....and it's not your fault you don't understand, because the translators inserted an uninspired "comma" where it should not be. Placing the comma...
  15. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    The Tree of Life is in Paradise, which means if Paradise was down in "hell" with the Rich Man and Abraham and Lazarus, why didn't they simply eat of the Tree of Life and come back to life? See? I can punch holes in your stupendously asinine doctrine all day long, my friend. Ever heard of...
  16. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    You know full well why you don't go around saying "Jesus made me gay". WORD MEANINGS CHANGE OVER TIME, AND IS WHY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO CORRECTLY UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF A WORD UNLESS WE FACTOR IN THE TIME IN HISTORY OF ITS USAGE.
  17. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    "The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into SILENCE" says Solomon. Why do you insist on contradicting Scripture with such foolishness as "in hell, speaking with each other" when Solomon, David, and everyone else clearly say the dead know nothing, say nothing, feel nothing, plan...
  18. Phoneman777

    The Impassable Great Gulf in Hell: No legs to walk with

    Yep, these modern "scholars" hate the KJV and the Textus Receptus, as well. They refer to the corrupt Codex "Sinaiticus" and "Aleph" and others as "the better manuscripts" simply because they're older, as if "older" is equal to "better".
  19. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    Amen amen, well said. I can't understand why people want to have it any other way and feverishly turn the pages of Scripture to find "evidence" for that....well, I do have my suspicions and they all revolve around a love for cherished sin that gets in the way of the truth you speak.
  20. Phoneman777

    Natural Theology of Mortal Souls

    First you discount the stellar scholarship of learned men, NOW YOU CONDEMN SOLOMON? A blind man can see that "nothing new under the sun" refers to the things of man - not God - but the spiritually blind will lead himself and those who follow him into a ditch. Even the word "forever" when it...