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"We should be celebrating the beautiful world God has in store for us rather than focusing on the passage of the “old order”. It is there you will find hope." And I disagree whole hardheartedly, because he earlier states that: "So why the obsession? For many Christians, it comes down to...

"Doing as they were told" somehow does not include the great commission?.....................:rolleyes:....................wow, and here I thought I heard it all. Whatever, it means nothing in relation to the definition of knowing God.

What does them doing what they were told have to do with anything I said? They carried out the great commission like many Christians today are doing, so what, that doesn't define the difference between truly knowing God and knowing of him.

Ok, then prove it and stop wasting everyone's time with these vacuous threads.

Speaking of the disciples, Paul included, my view on what it means to know him applies to them as well. You see, its so much easier to travel across Jerusalem and the known world boldly preaching the gospel, and raising the dead and healing the sick in Jesus Christs name when you saw Jesus...

Make no mistake, I believe in a rapture, just not the pre-tribulation one, because its quite simply unfounded in scripture.

Its not that I don't get it, its just that I don't 100% agree with what you are saying. You believe just receiving the holy spirit means you know him, and I really don't, because I define knowing someone as meeting them face to face much the same way Moses did as he conversed with God for 40...

So are you saying that a large part of the 61.6% that voted for gay marriage identified as 'christian'? Even if they did, what exactly could that possibly mean? Were they ever REALLY Christians to begin with? Instead of just giving the expected reaction and blaming it on proclaimed believers...

HAHA!!!!! Well, what do you think it means to know God? I already gave a very detailed explanation for what I believe it means, and that is somehow me treating you like a fool.

And out of all of this, you didn't provide not one scripture backing up your pre-tribulation rapture theory. The only thing you had to say about it was that it is "very real" and will take place "right on time".

How?

What part did they play in its passing?

Does he want to be known by us? That's a bit vague. We wouldn't have the Bible to begin with if he didn't want to be known.

Would it be better if Christians turned over their countries to atheistic 'conservatives' then since you hate the liberal ones so much? Is there a difference to you? This is of course assuming the country was "yours" to be turning over in the first place. Satan is called the seven headed ten...

I would be in agreement with this, if Daniel 7 wasn't all about the end times. For your theory to work, the little horn in Daniel 7 would have to be described as a kingdom, which it isn't, its described as distinct from the rest as an individual that, in the end will get tossed in the fire along...

Here is the problem I have with some people claiming to "know him". If you truly know him, then its no longer just a matter of faith for you, because you saw him, whether it be with your own two eyes or in the form of a vision, like Paul did. Actually seeing him, and, like Moses and Elijah...

*SIGH*

I never differentiated who the locusts go after as those who are and aren't doing 'evil', because that's not what it says anyway. I keep it simple and conclude they only go after those who are not saved or of his bride, which is what it means to have God's seal to begin with as I understand it...

The four angels are "loosed", which means that like Apollyon they certainly aren't roaming about freely until that point, so I think its at least safe to conclude that they are fallen. They are given command over Apollyon's two hundred million strong army of 'locusts' to lay to waste any that...

:rolleyes:.........*sigh*........oh lord.................here we go again with that "left behind" garbage, I can't stand it. At what point did Jesus Christ say that he will leave ANY of his bride behind to face the seven vials judgement GISMYS........you know.....the saved? Do you know what the...