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Sure, I might bother giving you an explanation some time later, but it might not be a simple one. I could give a simple answer, but I doubt a simple answer will suffice with you. Hell, a simple answer is hardly ever enough for some of you people.

:rolleyes: Oh I'm sure you know what my point is, no need to dance around it.

If they have to continually proclaim themselves to be Christians to the christian body of believers, then what does that tell you about them?

As much criticism that the Vatican rightfully gets, there is no evidence in scripture backing up this idea that the Vatican is the whore of Babylon, neither is there any evidence for it being the United States, or Europe, or Mecca as some have proposed, or anywhere else on earth except Israel...

Which generation are you referring to as being "the last"?

Is that what this guy is prattling on about? Seriously?................:rolleyes:..................*sigh*.

No, bbyrd009, it doesn't.

I'm obviously a man, pal. A mother loving her children is one thing, but to love the world unconditionally is another thing entirely. I don't know where people get this idea that we are supposed to love one another unconditionally because its not in the Bible. Lets break down what Jesus Christ...

m'kay

What? o_O

There is a difference between loving God unconditionally and loving others. Anybody telling me they do the latter is a liar, pure and simple. In the real world, unconditional love is a myth. The only one who ever did and ever will to any meaningful degree was Jesus Christ.

Yeah, a whole lot about nothing, as is typical from people on this forum.

WOW, did someone take a dump in your scrambled eggs this morning or what? You know what your problem is right now? You seem to care too much about people. Take a chill pill or something, get off the forum for a while and get some fresh air.

I don't recall anything like this being stated beyond Jesus saying that he cuts it all short for the elects sake, and because no flesh will be saved otherwise. This speaks to how bad things are really going to get. Those days won't be like anything anybody has ever gone through before. You won't...

Well, people believe that this will occur over seven years, that chunk between Revelation chapter 9 to 13. I don't see how it can get anymore compressed than that. In any case we're gonna be glad those days are cut short because the persecution during the Great Tribulation will feel like 70...

That's the last trumpet which doesn't occur until Revelation 11. But the saints are still here as decribed in later chapters such as 13, so the end is not quite yet. The last trumpet is about more than just Christ's return, its also about ushering in the next and last phase of Apollyons rule. If...

Gods word doesnt change, if he says something will happen, then it will happen exactly the way he said it. The first five months of Apollyons two hundred million strong locust army is only the first woe. There will be a lot more from where that came from. After that five month period, four...

I'm not one of those Christians that's too concerned about Christ's return. I'm more concerned about strengthening my faith in him to have the full armor of God to get me through this challenge of living in this world, the Great Tribulation being the ultimate test of it. I don't understand...

I think you'll be a lot older than 85 by the time Jesus returns by my estimates. Too much still hasn't occurred yet for it to be that early. Maybe around 120 years old like Job suggests?

Well, this is only a couple of decades away. I can go with that time line honestly. You see, I give the arrival of Apollyon no more than another thirty years. That should be plenty of time for the four beast kingdoms to rise, for the cashless society grid to occur, and for the numerous...