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You still have shown zero places where it is stated that the Atonement was a "payment for sins." You need to look harder!

I think that much of which passes for "Theology" is mere human Philosophy and a philosophical system pressed on the mind to contort the Bible into agreement with that Philosophy. True Theology is based on the Bible and what is said, not what is never said. An example: The Bible never says...

You mean the Gnostic view (Muslim view) that Jesus did not die on the Cross, but someone else was substituted? Or that I can believe in the Cross that saved EVERYBODY and no one goes to hell but the devil and his demons? It's in the Bible! Jesus Paid It ALL! Or that God "paid" for me, but not...

It is merely just another human THEORY. Obviously you can read it into the Bible, but you cannot draw it out of the Bible. For Theology to be true, it must be found in Scripture. But there has never been any payment associated with Atonement anywhere in the Bible; nor is there any statement to...

I always wondered what took God so long!

Arthur W. Pink and William Jefferson Clinton could spend hours defining what the word "is" is! By the time they are done, things will be so twisted that the word will have no meaning at all!

I have never been to a Church where they said that they weren't "based on the Bible." In fact, most Churches I have been to that stress that they "only" believe the Bible, are ironically the most theologically burdened and driven Churches I know.

Why would we build what we see in Scripture around something it never says? The danger is that through familiarity and oft repeated references to payment as the means of Atonement, we are fed presuppositions that demand that we read everything in Scripture to agree and support that assumption...

Biblically! But in Scripture, there is no "death row" that someone can bribe the Judge to release you. I don't know if sin can be redeemed; it's not and entity that can be redeemed. You assume that someone gets "paid"... Yet you cannot find where anyone gets paid in Atonement, Who gets...

It wasn't required to "pay for past sin." My issue with "paying" is not that there is no personal cost or suffering, but it gets convoluted into some crass Commercial Theory. No one was paid anything in the Atonement. Just like saying that in WWII, American combat losses were 291,557 men. Every...

Actually, He did say that. After Jesus said "It is finished!" He instructed the Disciples to: "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you, and lo, I am with you...

No, the Bible NEVER says "paid in full"... ever. No one's salvation is contingent on believing a theological fiction, or any theory of the Atonement.

If you have no hope if Jesus didn't pay your debt on the cross, then seek the Biblical Jesus and Biblical Atonement. I notice that you appeal to what Bible does say about Jesus in your post! You appeal to the Sacrificial System and not some Western Judicial System that is foreign to the Bible...

But you cannot have penalty and forgiveness. If the penalty is paid, then it has already been earned and there is nothing to forgive. Penal Substitutionary Atonement was invented to support Calvinism, so it would be no surprise that MacArthur would like it. It's logical outcome only arrives at...

This has already been debunked. Show me a Commentator from 100 years and beyond that ever came to such a conclusion! As I stated before, the work [telos] CAN be translated and used as "Paid," but words have very little meaning apart from their context. In the translation of Greek, you just...

Everyone has "heard" that there are people that teach "sinless perfection" and that evidence is everywhere we look.... just like the "Russian Collusion" that everyone hears about and claims that the "evidence" is everywhere, but it is not!

We have already established that God either pardons, or He accept payment. It cannot be both. The argument you make seems like it is academic and is based upon the Greek term [teleo] which can be translated as "paid". This is a fact, and as a fact it cannot be ignored. Greek words have many...

I am sorry Paul, but exegetically and theologically your "paid in full" theory is not in Scripture. It is not "The Gospel." To force the Bible into a Western concept of jurisprudence unknown to the Bible, we create more problems that can be resolved. Jesus didn't pay the fine for us. He...

From what I can see, it is the "Russian collusion" Hoax of Christianity.

Who ever, in the course of history ever said it was "sinless perfection"?