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No, even demons believe in God, and they tremble because of it. One has to repent of their sins in heart, mind and soul. That's why the thief was promised salvation, because he saw in his heart that he repented. What happened on the cross between Jesus and the thief is the message of the Gospel...

You know what's not a laughing matter to me? The Great Tribulation, THAT comes first before the rapture. I tend to laugh at false prophecies for the joke they are. They can't be taken seriously. But you can bet your anus that I'll be having the last laugh when the rapture does come. I'll be in...

:rolleyes: You don't even realize that Jesus actually confirms Elijah as one of the witnesses. This is of course after he is revealed from heaven alive and kicking talking with Jesus in all his glory. The actual Elijah shall truly come first, not DID come first, meaning this is an event yet to...

HA!!!! :D

I was expecting this to explode into a hot mess. Its nice to see people getting along for a change..........or did I speak too soon? :eek: God I hope not.

Well, yes of course he was the first, but he still had the holy ghost regardless. This guy claims that everyone else, even the prophets were NOT spiritually alive. If this was the case then John was in fact "spiritually dead", since he is compared to Elijah, who was also " spiritually dead"...

Added parts in red: I had to add words into the scripture in order for them to be referring to the same event...which they clearly aren't when not tampered with. Elijah, the prophet comes before the day of the lord, John the Baptist did NOT. They perform a similar task, but are not referring...

Nope, it really doesn't answer the question. You first would have me believe that John the Baptist existed in some pre-incarnate form before he was even born......in the old testament, and that one of the olive tree's was Jesus...........AND also the "Lord" he is standing beside. You can't have...

So who are these two fellows?: So Jesus, the lower case "Lord", as you believe, is standing beside himself? There are two different lower case Lords?

The second time: The third time????: I'd rather believe Jesus when he stated on no uncertain terms that his return will not be a quiet one, and to dismiss anyone stating otherwise.

So Jesus Christ will in fact appear twice?

So you believe the two witnesses in Revelation is John the Baptist and Jesus?

*whew*, nothing happened, man, thank goodness........so whats the new rapture date? :)

Is this belief amongst the Jews a recent one, or is this something they have pretty much always believed?

Yep, there is a web comic describing the differences between Orwell and Huxley. According to Orwell, what we hate will destroy us, but according to Huxley, its what we love that will destroy us, and people sure as hell love convenience, which is understandable.

A lot of Christians are confused now, so you can imagine how lost they'll be when the crap really hits the fan. The cashless society grid is creeping its way into the system slowly by the boiling frog method. Most people don't use cash now, they mostly use debit cards, credit cards, even cell...

Yep, this is going to be a time when we are really going to have rely on God to provide for us. Our faith will have to be iron clad, this is not a joke. The verse proves that the mark is a literal object placed inside of you. Its not some allegory for pledging allegiance to the beast like some...

There is no confusion about what happens. The only confusion is coming from their little noggins. Scripture is quite clear on this. Go to one of those Bible websites, go to Revelation and type in the word mark. It only speaks of one thing that happens, and its nothing good.

Good, he isn't telling you anything that isn't clearly stated in scripture. At least we have one pastor who sticks to sound doctrine and not fables. For those who believe in "once saved always saved", this clearly does not apply to certain end times events. Taking the mark and worshiping his...

Then he told you the right thing. Whats worse, a mortal death, or the death of your very soul? That's what happens to those who take it, and to those who worship the image of the beast.