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  1. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    In what place would God be found to have made the Sabbath day on day 7, have it exist during a time when people obey His "voice, charge, commandments, statutes, and laws" all the way up to the Cross, suspend the Ten Commandments between the 1st and 2nd Advents, then return to keeping all Ten...
  2. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I've claimed that Matthew 24 is a dual prophecy with parts fulfilled in 70 A.D., the end of time, and some with dual application to both. You denied this by referring to the stones "one upon another". I've shown you the context of "one upon another" is "thrown down" which means "one upon...
  3. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That's EXACTLY what it says in the Peshitta. Read if for yourself. Hebrews 4:9 It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.
  4. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    If the passage is literal, then Abraham's bosom is literal - you can't claim the passage is literal and then make the elements therein symbolic. Consistency - the mark of sound exegesis and hermeneutics.
  5. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The 4th commandment tells us resting on Sabbath is how to keep it holy, and that - not human reasoning - is how keeping it holy is defined.
  6. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    God Himself said He'd only gather did not gather them back because they never repented. What Scripture are you pointing to as "evidence to the contrary" of what I've said above?
  7. Phoneman777

    Carnal Hypocrisy of Sabbath Commanders

    Let's examine the evidence to see where it points: >Satan has a history of making laws which threaten God's people, and just before Jesus comes, apocalyptic Psalm 94 says Satan will "frame mischief by a law". >God desires His law be in our forehead and hand - the Beast's mark goes into either...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Why are you telling me something I already know?
  9. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Were they thrown down from where they rested one upon another when Jesus looked upon them? Yes. Prophecy fulfilled in 70 A.D. Oh, I thought the 70 Weeks pertained to only "thy people and thy holy city"? If we stick to the Bible, the 70 Weeks saw the end of Israel's transgression and sin by...
  10. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    If all the dead saints since Adam went to Abraham's bosom, Abraham is as tall as the U.S. is wide, and his bosom is the size of Texas, right or wrong? Sorry, but the Rich Man and Lazarus is an uninterpreted parable. (P.S. Job is still hiding "in the grave" and waiting "until Thy wrath be past"...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The Old Covenant "contract" consisted of two promises: 1. God's promise to bless Israel 2. Israel's promise, "All which the Lord hath spoken we shall do and be obedient". That which God spoke at Sinai was the Ten Commandments. The NC contains the same promises, except now God lifts His Ten...
  12. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I've already answered this in this post: The Pre-Trib Rapture
  13. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The passage deals with the time of judgment which is BEYOND the opportunity to repent or remain stubborn in sin, so why should we expect to read about it?
  14. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not grievous." - 1 John 5:3 KJV The verse is absolutely saying the "agape" of God is demonstrated by keeping happily keeping His commandments, so do you still believe that "love is love, not lawkeeping"?
  15. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The reason we keep the Sabbath is because it's a memorial to God's creative power - if it was a "shadow", Hebrews 4:9 KJV would not be telling us it's our duty to keep it, right? It would have said, "There's no more duty to keep the Sabbath" but that's not what it says. The verse says "It is...
  16. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The Sabbath can't have been a shadow of "new creation" because there was nothing wrong with the "old creation" when the Sabbath was made, right? ;)
  17. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The OC was the law written on stone, the NC is the same law written on our heart. If you love God, you'll keep the first four and if you love thy neighbor, the last six. "Love is the fulfilling of the law".
  18. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I give them the benefit of the doubt they do so ignorantly. I'm talking about those who will soon be confronted with the issue and become convicted, but choose to make their pastor's word "god" instead of God's word, an outward action proving their inward spiritual choice.
  19. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Is English your first language? Please read Revelation 16:6-12 KJV and see where the UNMARKED keep God's law on contrast to the MARKED who BTW cannot keep God's law even if they wanted to, according to Romans 8:7 KJV. If that doesn't satisfy you, sorry. It's plain enough to those with eyes...
  20. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I know you don't - that's why I told the other person I like that you recognize the problem with chopping off the entire week which the rest of the Jesuit Futurist world can't seem to come to terms with. However, we can't chop the last 3.5 year off, either. Jesus fulfilled the entire 70 Weeks...