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  1. Phoneman777

    Carnal Hypocrisy of Sabbath Commanders

    Excuse me, but the second the Sabbath was created it was a memorial to Creation Week. What part of Genesis 2:1-3 KJV do you not see confirming this?
  2. Phoneman777

    Carnal Hypocrisy of Sabbath Commanders

    Grace is not a license to keep violating any of God's laws, including the Sabbath, right?
  3. Phoneman777

    Carnal Hypocrisy of Sabbath Commanders

    We have to agree that whether mankind determines to do or not do the "whole duty of man" doesn't make that duty any less than what it is: "fear God and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS".
  4. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Have you ever heard of ships sailing "through" rough seas? That same water you claim lifted Noah "up" was also crashing down all around him, above him, over from one side to the other of him, inundating him. As I said, God preserved Noah "through" the Flood down here, not above the destruction...
  5. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I'm going to say it again: God had nothing to do with the events of 1948, but y'know who did? The U.S., the Papacy, and the occult societies which were in charge then just as they're in charge today. What better way to solidify Jesuit Futurism in the minds of "protestants" than to "reestablish...
  6. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I don't. I'm not a Jesuit Preterist -- neither am I a Jesuit Futurist, I'm a Protestant Historicist.
  7. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Sorry, but grace doesn't afford you a 10# discount. If you're breaking one, you're guilty of all, and not the least bit "righteous". Nope, just showing the progression of logic which leads to why I say Sunday sacredness is the Mark of the Papal Beast. Logic that proves Satan is going to be...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The 6,000 years Creation is almost up...I think the millennium will be a type of the "7th" day.
  9. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Agreed. I hold the unpopular interpretation that "...unto Messiah the Prince" can only refer to Jesus' baptism where He was "anointed" ("Messiah") by the Holy Spirit, which marked the end of the 69 Weeks and the start of the 70th.
  10. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Explicitly, not, but implicitly, yes. Why can't you admit the Mark has something to do with the commandments of Goda? The unMarked are specifically described as those who "keep the commandments of God" while the Marked only break them, according to Romans 8:7 KJV, which says the wicked can't...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    He's not very honest. I've had to hold his feet to the fire one too many times. Only interested in straw man arguments because he's incapable of honest debate, just circles the intellectual wagons around his ideas instead of allowing them to be challenged, lest he be forced to answer one.
  12. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The GWT judgment takes place after the 1,000 years when the wicked resurrect. So, the GWT judgment has nothing to do with the wicked running to the rocks and mountains about to take their 1,000 year dirt nap "at the brightness of His coming" when they give up the ghost as do all sinners when...
  13. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    To be honest, I've never heard of your position until now, so I took an objective look at it and discovered the context of "not be left one stone upon another" is to be understood by the words "that shall not be thrown down". You may find stones lying one upon another, but you will not find any...
  14. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    God preserved Noah "through" the Flood down here, not above it up there. He also preserved Israel "through" the 7 last plagues, preserved Daniel "through" the lion's den, preserved the 3 Hebrew worthies "through" the furnace, preserved Esther's people "through" the death decree; Jesus prayed for...
  15. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The Reformers recognized the book of Daniel was intrinsically tied to Revelation, therefore used both to interpret each other. They started at the statue in Daniel 2 and turned it on its side as a timeline: The head is Babylon, followed by MP, Greece, and Rome, and the Ten Barbarian divisions...
  16. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Let's dispense with Preterism and focus on Historicism. What's your first point about Historicism which you find problematic regarding Matthew 24? We can deal with that, then move to the next, shall we?
  17. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Isaiah 5 and Matthew 15 tell a different tale: they speak of total end to Israel as a chosen people, with Romans 11 limited to individual restoration of "broken branches" not an entire "pleasant plant" national restoration, which dried up and blew away, according to Isaiah and Matthew.
  18. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Why do you constantly attribute doctrines that were held by Protestants prior to the 19th century as belonging to EGW, as if they began with her? Christian mortalism - Wikipedia Your dishonesty has become too much, so I bid you ado.
  19. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I guess he figured people wouldn't have to be told that the 70th Week comes after the 69th? I mean, he plainly states what would happen during the 70th Week, and it all came to pass: - He would confirm the covenant of grace with "many" for one week - the 70th - which Hebrews says He...
  20. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Sad that I consider you a stand up guy? Why?