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I have no reason to assume, since he delivers a sort of mark of his own long beforehand. God delivering the mark of the beast himself would make him out to be a liar when he said that its not his wish that any soul should perish, as I see it. It would be akin to me that I'm not involved in...

Of course not, but you get my point.

Or it could be like a gateway to your spirit, which is what I've been proposing for a while now. There is a reason why drugs are always used in occult rituals. I believe the mark of the beast will be witchcraft incarnate, a cursed object of some kind. Some people think that its just a pledge of...

I'm not the one claiming that the mark will be a chip, as least how we would think of a "chip" today. I wouldn't bank the fate of my soul on me losing my hand, "accident" or not. Keep in mind too, that this "mark" can also go in your forehead as well. Agreed.

Well, its not hard for me to see. Its just a matter of realizing that the God of the Bible is the only religious text whose "god" isn't pantheistic of some sort. The only other religion that comes close is the Taoist religion, one of the oldest religions on the planet. Even that one is...

What makes you think their location is unknown? There is a difference between unknown and uncontacted. It says that the beast is given reign over all kindred's, nations and tongues. I have no reason to believe you'll be exempt just because you live deep in a rain forest. We may not know much...

:rolleyes: Then go and worship your dog.

More like six billion people. Keep in mind that the world will already be worshipping the beast and his image well beforehand. So I'm certain that the world will want to take it, because they will be salivating at the prospect of becoming like the beast, with the economic coercion and the threat...

Agreed, it is generally the assumption that the economic coercion that eventually occurs in Revelation is synonymous with the actual mark of the beast. I think this is a mistake. I separate the two as separate occasions. What first must occur for this to be possible is a drastic change in the...

I get a real kick out of the Hebrew rooters about as much as the allegory spin doctors, they are mutually exclusive. When something that is plainly stated in scripture that even a damn nine year old can see doesn't line up with their private interpretation, its "oh but the HEBREW version says"...

Death is still a thing in those particular scriptures, so it precedes the new heaven and earth.

:rolleyes: We're not talking about fiery furnaces made by man and comic book characters, we're talking about the mark of the beast. God isn't splitting hairs about who gets his foot up their anus for taking it, unless you can show the verses stating otherwise. Lets keep it on the subject at...

Well, you get tossed into the lake of fire if you take it, "saved" or not, so its going to do something significant to you that would forfeit your salvation, so a reversal of the law that Jesus fulfilled wouldn't be out of the question. For those believers who think they can test God and take...

Actually, this is what I'm trying to explain. I don't believe that the mark will be what we think it will be at all. We can only speculate at this point for the most part. The most anybody can say about it is that its some kind of cursed object implanted inside of you. However, a...

The curse of death for the bride of Christ will no longer apply during the millennial reign, but for the world at large, death will be the last enemy to be defeated at the throne judgement after this period. The promise of a new heaven and earth: Christs reign over the world before its...

Yep, I've read a little of the book of Enoch, at least the first few chapters concerning the pre-flood world. Like the rest of the extra biblical text, there really isn't much worth in it beyond that since there are too many contradictions within them even with the days of Noah. They often cite...

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I think there is a fundamental understanding about the law that you are missing. The reason why you will never find anything about a "law" that angels must follow as opposed to the law given to Moses is because God IS the law. Its not something that exists apart from his nature, he is the...

How does the second beast, the false prophet of revelation breathe life into the image of the beast? Is this not technically a transference? What "life" did he transfer into this "image"? Keep in mind its described in similar fashion to the creation of man with God breathing life into Adam. This...

My faith isn't built on allegories, otherwise my faith is of no use to anyone. Seriously, the allegorical babbling's people conjure up out of their heads needs to be kicked to the curb where it belongs. An allegorical Job would make God out to be like some little four year old talking to...