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And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared...

No I am saying we are all in the same boat together.

Again, Laodicea is a church. It says "God knows their works" That they are lukewarm. so they have works but they re lukewarm. This indicates a a gathering of true believers. What i see there is the most seduced church, the church of plenty and ease there, What you are saying is there are no...

This is off topic but i will address this since I brought it up. The Church of Laodicea is a church, A church can only be a church if it is a gathering of Born again believers. Correct? so all the people of the church of Laodicea are born again believers. Here is what the Lord showed me. The...

I Have met, and do know in general the condition of the church as a whole from observation and divine revelation from the Word of God and the Holy Spirit in me. I Make these comments based on the heart of God for his church, the grief he has shown me he has for what the church has become in this...

To Be honest, even though I know this is a "trap" question, I think you have a problem with being taught by the Holy Spirit, and that you Quench the Spirit. What Motivates this in you i am unsure of, if it is fear, then there is a submission issue, I Personally think it is more of a fear of...

That is how you end up with denominationalism, which is what the church was never meant to be. We are all one body. This is the Unity of the Spirit that this doctrine rightly understood CAN bring. You see if I run and form a new denomination, all I am doing is giving up, and losing faith, that...

It is YOU who have detracted from the reasonable discussion by being offended. Everything was "kosher" up until comment #36, and then you just snapped, for whatever reason. I even paid you a compliment several comments before that one and gave you a "like" which I do not often do on sites.

have I denied that you are born again?

Are you done now being offended? if so go back to comment 36 and reply to the scriptures i gave you about saints dying to answer your query and we can have a civil discussion? If not I take it you concede you have no response to those scriptural points.

The Holy Spirit is not an "it" But a "He". He is God with us, Emmanuel. He is making this earthen vessel an Holy sacrifice acceptable to the LORD, which is our reasonable service (Romans 12:1-2)

No, The doctrine of the church today is complacent, and afraid of the working of the Holy Spirit. You are reading this as an accusation, or I should say the Holy Spirit may be convicting you of these things in your own life. Has the Holy Spirit ever corrected you like this before? This is a...

Yes, passive aggressive. My Heart is being passive here and you are reading aggressive.

If You are truly born again then there should be no fear in you of dying.

I Am making observations of the church in general you are reading accusations in them. IAm tryingto show you the doctrines of complacencybthat have infested the church, this is convicting you I am not accusing you.

Did I say You? Or was I speaking of the church in general? You read yourself into the comment. That is conviction of the Holy Spirit. Do Not quench the Spirit.

Definition of Complacency: complacency [kəmˈplāsənsē] NOUN a feeling of smug or uncritical satisfaction with oneself or one's achievements. "the figures are better, but there are no grounds for complacency" Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and...

I Agree, this is instant sanctification as my OP discusses. Immediately we are justified and declared righteous by the blood of the Lamb and are sanctified. All our sins past present and future have been wiped clean. We Get the Holy Spirit as an earnest and he then begins the work of...

I Numbered your point so that I can answer them individually. 1. I Understand and never implied you are me, I am judging you by what you have written to me here on line. As I said previously, you have desire for Truth, and your heart is in the right place, but you are afraid of error and this...

When I first read these words of Tozer, I as a fundamentalist Baptist was offended, but those words convicted me, and showed me what I was missing out on in the faith. They showed me My complacency, my inability to learn from the Holy Spirit, How my self-sufficiency was getting in the way of my...