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  1. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    God has added no gap - it is man who has done so. If you add a gap to any numerically defined block of time - in this case, 70 Weeks - that block of time ceases to be defined by that numeral and is now defined by a greater value numeral, which according to you would be 70 Weeks PLUS 2000 years...
  2. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    The 1260 Days and the 70 Weeks are TWO DIFFERENT PROPHETIC TIME PERIODS. The one began "in the seventh year reign of Artaxerxes" which was 457 B.C. and ended in 34 A.D., while the other began in 538 A.D with the inception of the papacy and ended in 1798 when the papacy received the deadly...
  3. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    If you add a 2,000 year "gap" to Daniel's symbolic 70 Weeks prophecy - which is literally 490 years - the prophecy is no longer "70 Weeks" - it becomes "70 Weeks plus 2,000 years". Isn't it interesting that Daniel never calls it the "70 Weeks plus 2,000 years" prophecy - it just says "70...
  4. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    Sorry, but it it you who has it wrong. Why can't you understand that the prophecy in Daniel 9 is a "70 Week" prophecy? This is a Numerically Specific Time Prophecy which is plainly stated to be 70 symbolic weeks - 490 symbolic days - which is 490 literal years. If you insert a 2,000 year gap...
  5. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    There is no consciousness in death. We die and that's that until the "Second Life" (which is necessary if there is to exist the Second Death) - the dead righteous are raised to a Second Life nevermore to die, while the wicked are raised to a Second Life in the resurrection of damnation where...
  6. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    My mistake. I thought you disagreed with me when I said that Genesis 2:7 teaches that the Living Soul comes into existence as consequence of the union of the Body and the Breath of Life, and ceases to exist when God gathers His Breath of Life back to Himself from the Body at the moment of death...
  7. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    I don't have to dictate to anyone what the Bible says. They can read it for themselves. I've shown you Genesis 2:7 which says God imparts the BREATH OF LIFE into the Body to produce a living soul. The burden is upon YOU to find a verse which says God imparts a living Soul into the body. You will...
  8. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    I agree verse 2 is about the first advent of Christ but the rest is dealing with the ten Northern tribes and what appears to be the captivity of the brethren of the ten Northern tribes: the SOUTHERN brethren which would go into Babylon soon after the ten Northern tribes are lost forever. I think...
  9. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    Sure, there are many prophecies in the OT that are not yet fulfilled, but the 70th week of Daniel 9 has been fulfilled...by Jesus Christ, not Antichrist.
  10. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    You do understand that Micah was prophesying about the coming destruction of the 10 Northern tribes, right? The 70 Weeks deal with Jerusalem and the Jews, not the 10 lost tribes of the North.
  11. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    God didn't impart a soul into your body either. He imparted His Breath of Life to your body, and you BECAME a Living Soul. B-E-C-A-M-E is a strange way to spell "impart". This doesn't prove man "has" a Soul in the least. What false claims? I'm just quoting Scripture. So, if the Bible never...
  12. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    You keep using the word "dormant". When you flip off a light switch and the electric current is removed from the light bulb, does the light go "dormant" or does it cease to exist? So, when the Breath of Life is removed from the Body, does the Living Soul - which comes into and exists only as a...
  13. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    I see. You've been shown by my analogy that the 70th Week can expire without the things mentioned in Daniel 9:24 - the reasons for why the 70 Weeks were cut off in the first place - being accomplished, and your only response is essentially to claim we should not, rather than show me why we...
  14. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    Saying the 70th Week is history only seems absurd to you because of your subjective, rigid interpretation of Daniel 9:24 - you think all that's mentioned in the text (...finish the transgression and make and end of sin, to make reconciliation for iniquity and bring in everlasting righteousness...
  15. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    The 70 Week immediately followed the 69th Week and was fulfilled almost 2,000 years ago. Slicing it off and sending it down to the end of time as "the last seven (or as some surmise "three and a half") years of tribulation" is a Jesuit idea not substantiated by Scripture.
  16. Phoneman777

    EZ 38-39 TIMELINE

    The 70th Week immediately followed the 69th Week and was fulfilled almost 2,000 years ago. Slicing off the 70th Week and sending it down to the end of time as "the last seven years of tribulation" is a Jesuit idea not substantiated by Scripture.
  17. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    Yes, but how? By the union of the Body and the Breath of Life. The Soul does not exist for a moment until that union occurs, according to Genesis 2:7. What you said: A soul is Living because God imparted LIFE into it (the Soul). Gen. 2:7 says: A soul is Living because God imparted the Breath...
  18. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    Solomon says the dead "know not anything". David prayed that he would not "sleep the sleep of death". I'm not sure it is oversimplification to state that death is the opposite of life, not a continuation of it. The issue revolves around whether the individual's death will be temporary - which...
  19. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    There's nothing in Genesis 2:7 that suggests in the slightest that "a soul enters the body". What Genesis 2:7 DOES say is that the Breath of Life, not the Soul, enters the Body - which at that moment of the union of the Breath of Life and the Body, a Living Soul comes into existence. Living...
  20. Phoneman777

    Hell is Forever - Punishment, Torment or Torture - You Would Not Cease to Exist

    No, the Bible says the "Living Soul" IS a man...IS a man...IS a man, not a component of man. Right, but this proves exactly what? The "CREATED" FORMED BODY, called man, With a "MADE" soul, with LIFE from God, called a Living soul, BREATHED into a man, IS now a MAN, who is both a created body...