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Truth That's what destruction is. So, you'll agree that in the beginning "God stepped out onto nothing and spoke to nothing, and from nothing came forth everything"...but you cannot allow for the idea that God will blot out from existence everything that bears the mark of the curse of sin...

Jesus spoke of "hell" ("Gehenna": which means "the valley of hinnom" - the Jerusalem city dump). As it was the custom of Jesus, He often directed the attention of those He taught to the scenes around them. In directing their attention to the city dump, Jesus was illustrating what the final...

No, the Last Trump is blown when the dead in Christ rise at the Second Coming. The Bible knows of no other trumpet being blown thereafter.

I agree, since we are helpless to overcome sin in our own strength. What believers cannot count on Jesus to do for them is to cover their iniquitous, presumptuous, deliberate, known sin - if believers persist in rejecting the Holy Spirit's pleadings to turn from it, they will eventually be lost.

Why are you hung up on this trumpet thing? Is there any greater a trumpet that the "trump of God"?

Not in a man's own strength can he. Now, do you believe Paul? "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. Or, do you believe "all things" means "everything except overcoming sin"?

The "last trump" is blown when Jesus comes, and is blown by God Himself (Zechariah 9:14). No seven years of trib to follow. No second chance before Second Coming. Not anything but desolation and destruction until God returns to make the New Heaven and Earth. Yes, you're a Jesuit Futurist. There...

If you think that quenching the Spirit is not synonymous with losing salvation, then there's nothing more than I can say.

The point is OSAS makes commandment keeping optional, not obligatory - which is why OSAS appeals so much to those who claim to be "believers" but refuse to give up their iniquitous, presumptuous, deliberate, known sin. If you're truly a believer, then why didn't you "Remember the Sabbath day, to...

Not a single intimation of "day = epoch" in 1 Thess. Not a single intimation of "day = epoch" in 2 Thess. Not a single intimation of "day = epoch" in 2 Pet.\ No, the "day of the Lord" is the day when the Lord comes back and gathers the resurrected and abiding saints, destroys the living wicked...

Why can't you distinguish between "a just man falls seven times and rises up again" and "He that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whosoever confesseth AND forsaketh his sin shall have mercy"???? I've not been referring to the stumbling that often happens as we grow in grace - I'm talking...

I'll let the Bible do the accusing: "Hereby we do know that we know Him IF we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in Him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we...

How can there be a seven year period of anything if Peter says when the Lord comes as a thief in the night, the entire planet will all but blow up?

This is a totally subjective statement which makes no sense. If "believers" love God more than they love the pleasures of sin for a season, they why are they sinning? No, those who feel condemned are those to whom the Holy Spirit comes and "convicts the world of sin" (John 16:8-11 KJV) which is...

OK, now you're making it up as you go. There's not a single verse indicating the devils are lost because they rejected salvation. They are lost because they refused to give up their rebellion. What makes you think the fate of those who turn from serving God to serve sin will be any different...

Oh, please. Dispensationalism is Plymouth Brethren lagniappe that was tacked on to the lie of Jesuit Futurism. There is no "last seven years of tribulation", "coming future Antichrist", or "second chance before the Second Coming". The church is not going anywhere until Jesus comes gloriously...

No, OSAS is no security to anyone except those who love sin. The only security the Bible speaks of is the security of walking "as He walked" in obedience to God through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. "There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus WHO WALK...

The devils believe that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose again...yet they are lost, aren't they?

No, you cannot lose something you never had in the first place, Heb. Can you lose your Civil War musket? If Jesus believed in the lie of OSAS, He never would have said things like: "And because iniquity shall abound, the love ("agape" - it is foolish to think the lost can obtain "agape" while...

Feeling that false security of OSAS, are we? Why comfort oneself with a lie? OSAS is the belief which claims that which may be obtained only by living faith - eternal life - may be obtained by the dead faith. James makes it so clear about the difference between living faith which produces...