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  1. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Psalms 111:7:8 KJV says "The works of His hands are verity and truth. All HIS commandments are sure; they stand fast forever and ever." What commandments were the result of "the works of His hands"??? That's right, the Ten Commandments which were carved out of stone and written by the hand of...
  2. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You still have yet to explain how we simultaneously have no obligation to keep the Ten Commandments but are not at liberty to break them.
  3. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You say that we are not allowed to act contrary to the Ten Commandments. Fine. The Fourth Commandment says that we are to work six days a week and then keep the Sabbath holy by resting the seventh day. That means that the only way a person can avoid "acting contrary to the Ten Commandments" is...
  4. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Moses described his Mosaic Law as being "against thee" (God's people) and Paul says the law "that was against us" was nailed to the Cross - the Mosaic Law. The Ten Commandment Law of God "stands fast forever and ever" and if we are not obligated to keep it, then we should be at liberty to break...
  5. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I agree. If you love God, you'll keep the first four and if you love your neighbor, you'll keep the last six.
  6. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    We are also obligated to keep His commandments, because "blessed are they that do His commandments that "have a right to the Tree of Life and may enter into the gates to the city." Revelation 22:14 KJV. The problem is people who claim that keeping the Ten Commandments is somehow a bad thing...
  7. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Who is saying that we are only obligated to keep the 7th commandment and not go beyond it? No one. The issue is that because you and Upp do not want to keep the seventh day Sabbath, you are willing to argue the senseless idea that going beyond the 7th commandment somehow leaves no obligation...
  8. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Brother, my saying that I think you have an unconscious love of sin is not an attack on your character. Besides, at this point I no longer think you do. What I think based on your posts is that you have a serious inability to discern sound doctrine, which I hope will change.
  9. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    *SIGH* OK, I dug up your ridiculous statement and here it is: "NO, we are NOT "obligated" to keep the 10 commandments due to the fact that we are not under those commandments. But don't even TRY for a second try to twist this around, which sabbatarians have the habit of doing, to making it...
  10. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    In never said "God instituted the Sabbath from the book of Genesis". I said that God created the Sabbath in Eden and there is not reason for us not to believe that it was among the "charge, commandments, statutes, and laws" that Abraham kept. Man, your reading comprehension skills are lacking...
  11. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Yes, Christians go further than the Ten Commandments because Isaiah prophesied that Jesus would "magnify the law and make it honorable". For one to say, "I'm not obligated to follow God's law which forbids adultery because I do not lust after other women" is ludicrous. Of course we are obligated...
  12. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    When did I claim that you said or suggested that we act contrary to the Ten Commandments?
  13. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, your claim that "we are not obligated to keep the Ten Commandments but we are not at liberty to act contrary to them" is first rate creative theological doublespeak which relies on the redefining of plain words of English. "Obligation" means "not at liberty" and "Liberty" means "under no...
  14. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Axehead, the Sabbath was not given exclusively to the Israelites, for the One Who created the Sabbath declared Himself that "the Sabbath was made for MAN" (Gr. "anthropos" - "mankind" which refers to every single person on earth) and M-A-N is a strange way to spell "Israelite" or "Jew". Abraham...
  15. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Unconscious love of sin" is not a statement of condemnation, because one who has such is not aware of it. "In times of ignorance, God winked." "Satan's own" is a direct accusation, which is a violation of forum rules.
  16. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, you misread my post. Go back and re-read SLOWLY the first line of 674.
  17. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You should know that accusing others of belonging to the devil is a serious violation of forum rules. "Antichrist" means to "take the place of Christ", therefore none of us are to set ourselves up in the judgment seat of Christ, which belongs to Him alone, and pass judgment regarding another's...
  18. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    The idea that our Savior saves people IN sin instead of FROM sin. James says that if we fail to fulfill our obligation to keep the Ten Commandments we become sinners (James 2:10-12 KJV), yet you and others somehow have concluded that Jesus will save those who do just that.
  19. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Not sure why you call me a hypocrite.
  20. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Axehead, in Matthew 7:23 KJV Jesus - the God of the Old Testament who wrote His Ten Commandments on stone at Mount Sinai - did not say, "Depart from Me, ye who KEEP the law". He said, "Depart from Me, ye who BREAK the law." What Bible version are you reading, because I would suggest you switch...