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  1. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Hate not thy brother in thine own heart: thou shalt in any wise REBUKE thy brother and not suffer SIN upon him." Leviticus 19:17 KJV. Didja catch that? The Bible actually says that a man who fails to rebuke his brother and allows him to continue in sin hates...that's right...hate's his...
  2. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, when Paul says we can do "all things through Christ which strengthens me", most people understand that "all things" means "all things" including resisting the devil every single time he comes to us with the temptation to sin. As soon as you accept that sin is a choice and Jesus stands ready...
  3. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Ever hear of "the just shall live by faith"? That comes from the OLD TESTAMENT. The blood of bulls and goats has never taken away sin. The OT believers looked forward by faith to the Cross and evidenced that faith by adhering to the law. We look back to the Cross and evidence our faith by...
  4. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Why do you continue to drag "justification" into the debate? This is classic strawman tactic. No one is arguing that justification comes by the law. Therefore, I have added no such "commandments of men" to the plan of salvation. What is being said is that obedience is the evidence that we...
  5. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You want to know where in the New Testament we are told to keep the Ten Commandments? Fine. Paul says that Christians are to "Honour thy father and thy mother, which is the first commandment with promise." John tells Christians to "keep yourselves from idols". James tells Christians that "if...
  6. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Your questions are based on flawed exegesis, such as your claim that the Bible makes no distinction between the Ten Commandments and the Mosaic Law, so the only way to answer your questions is to set aside the Bible, which we who have the truth are not willing to do.
  7. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Your false prophets have led you into deception because they've taught you that you can't keep the Ten Commandments while the Bible repeatedly says that we can do "all things through Christ which strengthens us", which includes keeping the Ten Commandments. If the child of a smoker has an...
  8. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    We are not obligated to keep the Ten Commandments but we are not allowed to act contrary to the Ten Commandments, right? OK, let's see if I've got this right: 1) We are not allowed to act contrary to the 1st commandment by, say, worshiping Glycon, the "coolest rock and roll god" of Alan...
  9. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Amazing how millions upon millions of Christians in the past preferred to be thrown to the lions or burned at the stake because they refused to break God's Ten Commandments. A pinch of incense dropped into the flames of an idol; an acknowledgment that Caesar was god; declaring the blasphemy...
  10. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I agree that I don't get your non-Biblical interpretation of the relationship between law and grace, which makes grace a disgrace. Grace is both pardon for sin and power to obey God's commandments. Your desire for Jesus as your Savior but not your Lord is all too common in Christendom.
  11. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    What sin is John referring to in 1 John 1:8 KJV? Many slaves to sin who are deceived into believing that they have gained victory in Christ seek to excuse their continuing sinful habits to which they are enslaved by interpreting 1 John 1:8 KJV to mean the sin to which they continue to be...
  12. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I don't get the very thing I pointed out? That makes ZERO sense. Of course I get it, else I wouldn't have drawn attention to it. What you don't seem to understand is that no matter what a person professes, his actions show what he really believes. A person who claims to love Jesus but refuses...
  13. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Brother, you've got it all wrong. The Ten Commandments were never lacking anything b/c David said "the law of the Lord is perfect". What is lacking is the love necessary for us to keep them. When Jesus supplies that love, the resultant obedience separates those who truly love Jesus from those...
  14. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    The only red herring here is your doctrine that "we are not obligated to keep the Ten Commandments but we are not at liberty act contrary to them" which is the height of theological redonkulousness - as if we can be simultaneously obligated and not obligated to the same thing. By teaching that...
  15. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Why do you yell so much? Volume is a poor substitute for a solid argument. And try as you might, you cannot refute the fact that the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Testament in the context of our obligation to them, the fact that the Ten Commandments will exist for all eternity while...
  16. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Obedience is not the means by which we obtain salvation, but is the evidence that we've received in our hearts Him Who is that means, for without Him obedience is simply not possible. That is why the Bible says: "Hereby we do know that we know Him if we keep His commandments, He that saith, I...
  17. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Fufilled" doesn't mean "do away with". When Jesus told John the Baptist, "suffer (My baptism) to be so, for it becomes us to fulfill all righteousness", he certainly didn't mean that His baptism would "do away with" all righteousness. "Fulfill the law" means to "fill full the obligation".
  18. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Just as Baptism is the outward expression of the death and burial of the Old Man and the resurrection of the New Man, so is the weekly Sabbath observance the outward expression of the indwelling continual rest of Jesus which tells the world that He is both the Creator of it and the Re-Creator of...
  19. Phoneman777

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    Your ignorance of Scripture is the reason you don't understand. The "handwriting of ordinances that was against us" is described in Deuteronomy as what Moses wrote in a book, not what God wrote with His finger in stone (Deuteronomy 31:24-26 KJV). Read it for yourself. That book of the law was...
  20. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You continue to confuse the Mosaic Law which began at Sinai with the Ten Commandments which have existed from the beginning. People knew it was wrong to steal, lie, worship Nimrod, etc., long before God ever said anything about circumcision or Passover.