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  1. Phoneman777

    A Question About The Restrainer

    Most Christians conclude that the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2 is the "Holy Spirit filled church" which is preventing the rise of Antichrist and after the church is "taken out of the way" in the rapture, the Antichrist will then be free to arise and wreak havoc on the earth during the "last...
  2. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Well done. Glad to see that at least some people aren't falling for Jesuit ideas.
  3. Phoneman777

    Rev 20:4-6

    "But the rest of the dead..." is a parenthetical statement, just as you have written it, and parenthetical statements need not be chronological. Historicism teaches that the the simultaneous Second Coming and Rapture of the Saints commences this thousand year period which culminates with the...
  4. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    ATP, "sleep" is a Biblical expression for "death", so a "soul that has fallen asleep" is just a euphemistic way of saying "a soul that has died and has ceased to be", seeing that the conditions necessary for a soul to exist - the union of the Body and Spirit of Life (Genesis 2:7 KJV) - no longer...
  5. Phoneman777

    Eternal torment and emotional conflict

    For me, there is no greater example of warped reasoning than the idea that Jesus took upon Himself my punishment of eternal torment without Him having to actually endure it for me. I've heard all the arguments: Jesus suffered an eternity of torment in those few hours that He was actually in...
  6. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    Thanks for participating and for your thoughts. The original post was to draw attention to that it is the Spirit of Life alone which returns to God at death, but ATP seems he has proof texts to the contrary. In Psalm 13:3 KJV, David says just as plainly as Jesus that sleep is "death". A...
  7. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    You are absolutely right that when we die, our inability to sense the passing of time results in what seems to be but a brief moment between the closing of our eyes in death and the glorious awakening to the Savior's descent from heaven, for Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 KJV clearly says that this period...
  8. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    ATP, I believe you are misinterpreting Scripture because you think that which begins its existence down here is able to return to God up there at death. If you want to believe that things which came into existence down here - our emotions, thoughts, knowledge, etc. - are able to return to a...
  9. Phoneman777

    Explain how God can exist

    The accuracy, specificity, and abundancy of Bible prophecy, of which no other ancient writings can even begin to compare, proves the existence of Omnipotence, according to 2 Peter 1:19, and obliterates the competition from Buddha, Shiva, Brahma, Allah, Krishna, and all other Satanic counterfeits...
  10. Phoneman777

    Not Asleep, But Comatose

    Actually, knowing how Jesus comes back is most certainly an issue of salvation, for if we fail to ascertain from Scripture the manner in which He comes, we will most certainly be deceived by the counterfeit "second coming" of Satan. The Jews taught that the Messiah would come as a Lion and thus...
  11. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    What I mean is that life returned to a lifeless BODY. When the Spirit of Life enters a body, the soul comes into existence. Upon departure, the soul "sleeps", or goes out of existence. Upon re-entrance, the soul comes back into existence. When the wicked suffer the Second Death, they shall...
  12. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    JESUS' SPIRIT WENT UP When Jesus died, He said, "Into Thy hands I commend My spirit" which is not symbolic, but literal according to these authors: Job (Job 34:14-15 KJV) The "Preacher" (Ecclesiastes 12:7 KJV) David (Psalm 146:4 KJV) Luke (Acts 7:56-59 KJV) JESUS SOUL WENT DOWN Peter says...
  13. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    True, but the word for Soul also means "life" which exists only as a consequence of the union of the Spirit and the body. It's interesting that of the 12 miracle resurrections in Scripture, not a single one of these people had even one word to say about what was happening to them while dead...
  14. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Trekson, what's vital to one's salvation is a surrendered heart to Jesus. Jesus doesn't care how much you sing praise songs in church or declare how much you love Him to the world, if you refuse to keep His commandments, He calls all that other stuff "vain worship" which will get you nothing...
  15. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    There is no such thing as a "spirit/soul". These are TWO SEPARATE THINGS as proven by: 1) the sword of Hebrews 4:12 KJV which can separate the one from the other 2) the fact that, as in the numerous cases in Scripture which declare the Spirit returns to God at death, Jesus' Spirit returned to...
  16. Phoneman777

    Not Asleep, But Comatose

    My friend, Revelation 18:1-4 KJV clearly depicts in the last days a global apostate religious system ("Babylon") to which the united governments of the world surrender their authority ("kings of the earth") as she enrichens the members of the global economic cartel ("merchants of the earth") who...
  17. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    Hi, friend, we know "as the Body without the Spirit is dead..." so why would we conclude that the Soul is not also, especially with both the OT and NT testifying that Souls die? That said, the "destruction" of the Soul in hell Jesus spoke of carries with it an obvious connotation of permanence...
  18. Phoneman777

    Round Trip or One Way?

    The majority of Christians believe it's possible for people to return to a place they've never departed. As irrational as it sounds, this belief is the foundation for a distortion of the truth of what happens when we die. A brief look at three texts which will explain the “before, during, and...
  19. Phoneman777

    Not Asleep, But Comatose

    Everywhere you turn, we find the Pre-Tribulaiton Rapture theory convincing Western Christians that we need not be concerned with end time suffering/persecution/death decrees, etc., because "we'll be gone when the 7 years of Tribulation begin". That aside, it is not my purpose here to enter into...