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Thank you J, That is one of my favorite verses, BTW :)

The Holy Spirit convicts people of sin and righteousness, and why are you putting "the elect" into scripture where it is not? " The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to...

Yes, it is frustrating yet, we know He hears us and in the silent times, I try so to realize that His timing is perfect. My mom believed all 7 of her children would become saved. She did not live to see it yet, she believed it with all her heart. We are all born again believers now. So, when...

Okay then. ??

Not if God is at the center of the worship song, drawing our attention to Him and Him only.

For sure Willie, It's our "world view" that is skewed when we perceive things through the way of the world. This, to me anyhow, is where we are to continually renew our minds to the ways of God...so many Church's today are operating from that worldly standpoint, light's, fake smoke and...

It is relevant as it shows God's long suffering to give time for ALL to repent, and yes I know that NOT all WILL repent but, they have a choice to do so or not. You seem to be speaking out of both sides of your mouth when on one hand, God chooses only certain people for salvation and others for...

Can't you people just answer a simple question?? What's with that?

Yes I did Farouk! I'm sorry but, it just doesn't peak my interest, lol. I have a 45 year old tattoo on my forearm and it is something I really wish I did not get...I was only 16 at the time and, they were not as popular as they are now. Not that there is anything wrong with them, just not at...

He was :)

:D:rolleyes:

Maybe you should teach @David Taylor what that means to be a Calvinist? He seems to think he actually has free will!

I know exactly what Calvinism teaches. What exactly do you mean by ability??

What do you think of the following verses? 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” 1 Timothy 2:4 - "Who will have all men to be saved...

Then you are the very first Calvinist I have met who believes in free will :confused: Pretty much the belief of Calvinism is that the "elect" are already chosen before the foundations of the earth. The "U" of T.U.L.I.P. "Unconditional Election... Maybe you are not a total 5 pointer?

And, likewise. This applies to ANY and ALL who believe and accept the Gospel as Truth. All people make choices and this is no different. "Choose this day whom you will serve".

No worries S.G. They thought Jesus was crazy too. The truth hurts only those who will not even look into it. They fool only themselves and believe what they want to believe. Save your fingers ;)

I have attended 2 different Calvinistic church's. I have heard all of the arguments, ad nauseam. Both of those church's were cold and hard, no warm spirited brothers and sisters there. I know all about your TULIP acronym. This horrid doctrine kills, steals and destroys joy and assurance of...

How do you know that YOU have not been a vessel prepared for destruction? Why not just rip out all those pages in the Bible where God "so loved the world..." "God wishes NONE to perish" Jesus dies for the sins of THE WORLD and, please don't try and say that the "world" is the planet itself...

Satan and his ways are so very subtle...it's all happening right under our noses and we have been slowly moving away from all things God. "If even the very elect..."