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Some seem to see the 'Outer darkness" as hell...I see others talk about it being those vessels of dis-honor not being allowed to the marriage supper of the Lamb, but will themselves be saved. Not at all sure in my own mind about this. I hope more will expound on this...♥

Good points...yes. Will everybody submit to His will in heaven, I wonder?

When we get to heaven, our WILLS will be the same as God's will. We will not be "robots" He gave us each a personality, each of us different. What makes you think we will not still have our unique personalities in heaven?

"we are also promised pressed down, shaken together, running over so pick your promise i guess" ...For with the same measure that you mete with it shall be measured to you again. <---reap what you sow...we cannot "leave the world" until God calls us home. We are in it, not OF it. He brings us...

God created us lacking NOTHING. We, broke that when man chose sin and disobedience. We are living in time-temporal...the world is broken, we are promised trials, tribulations, sickness and death in these carnal bodies. God can and does heal, and, as we are imperfect beings in an imperfect...

If you recall, my OP noted "joy in the midst of our sorrow..." BTW Mark, are you also against immunizations?

Love God, Love neighbor...the rest will automatically be fulfilled when we practice these two commandments from Jesus.

Awesomness!!!

Mark, I certainly understand what you are talking about. And, I also believe that, originally God provided every bit of nutrition naturally, through the food He gave us, fruit, veg, herbs and so on. Now that "man" has gotten his greedy paws on everything, nutrients and such that would be "good...

Well, on the contrary, my take is that the key is obedience-and as it is always for our own good to obey, and His burdens are light-what is there to "work up"? It's like a child sticking their hand in a hot oven, the parent will tell them "no"...for their own good. So, I don't see any kind of...

Yes He sure did. Obedient or not, they were still His chosen people, He still loved them.

"...silence the enemy and avenger. Psalm 8:1-2" One of our most powerful weapons ♥

It seems possible to allow ourselves to be controlled by other spirits if we allow unhealthy thoughts to enter our minds like, hated, bitterness, jealousy, self pity, etc. All of these things are sin and grieve the Holy Spirit who lives within us. Possessed though? Mmm, dunno bout dat..

And ignorance is bliss, lol! Who knows, maybe ignorance just might save some :D

Glad I missed all that, lol. Do not even know this fish guy!

I hear nothing of the role of the Holy Spirit as our teacher, nor anything of the Bereans. Acts 17:11 11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said...

And to think these super rich people are but a small percentage of the population. Some of my friends think I am into "conspiracy theory's" pertaining to these things. But then, these "friends" listen only to the talking heads on cable "news", and do no research on their own.

Whoa...I just watched one of the videos about that inauguration...very dark indeed! My past readings of The Knights Templar, Illuminati and such resemble this stuff.

Amen, yes..."ALL things work to the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose!" As much as I hate the "bad", I can still look forward to what He will make of it ♥

:) ♥♥ Amen.