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It remains that our entrance into salvation, from the perspective of time, is through surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ.

Because we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand. And therefore a man cannot stand in grace apart from faith. And therefore faith is the catalyst for standing in grace. Therefore grace does not come first.

And this is what I take issue with as an evangelist. People who believe in Calvinism often think of themselves as saved by arbitrary election and therefore do not see the need to make a commitment to Christ.

In that case, there is nothing that I need to do to be saved; and therefore the response is unnecessary.

This would make our response, in a sense, essential.

I agree; and would also say that those who want to be saved will call upon the name of the Lord. Of course, if they think they are already saved but are not, they will not do this if they believe your doctrine; because if the motive is wanting to be saved, the motivation is not there because...

So a person will respond if redeemed. And therefore, if they don't respond, they are not redeemed.

And if He doesn't want to do that, we're out of luck. Because of course there are those whom He doesn't save.

I was also saved out of the blue. However, I was not saved apart from a choice to begin reading God's word and doing what it says.

However, I am making a point, that the unbeliever hearing the doctrines of Calvinism, if he thinks he is saved, will not think that he has any need to respond.

Ok, I'm interested....how do you know you were saved?

Why respond if you are already saved? there is no need...

How is it any virtue on my part to reach up when Jesus reaches down, because I was in a pit and desired to be rescued? And how did I save myself in that? I could never have gotten out of the pit on my own; I needed the Lord to rescue me. If a life preserver is thrown to someone, and they...

What makes you think you have the good fortune of being one of the elect, when you hear the doctrines of Calvinism? Don't you see that in those doctrines there is the possibility that God did not choose you? Because there are those who will not enter in; it is therefore the luck of the draw.

At least you admit that those who believe in Calvinism are self-righteous. However, the invitation is given to all; as indicated by the word whosoever.

Actually, it is only the god of your imagination whose goodness is called into question (and Calvin's imagination).

Therefore, the Calvinist will not take advantage of the invitation that the Lord gives us in the holy scripture: Rev 22:17, And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

I would say that because there is no injustice with the Lord, that He would not do anything that we, in our God-given consciences, would deem to be unjust. And since leaving certain people to be put in the lake of fire (by His choice) is something that we would deem to be unjust, I conclude...

@Waiting on him; You appear to be trying to say that a man can have the Holy Ghost apart from calling on the name of the Lord; since in your estimation having the Holy Ghost comes first; I conclude that calling on the name of the Lord isn't necessary. However, that is not a biblical statement...