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What, you want to go back? :funlaugh2

@Matthias Consider what you're saying about delegating the defense of yourself and your family to unbelievers in government. What you're saying is that it is effectively impossible for everyone to be saved because Christians will always need unbelievers to act as their protectors.

Getting nostalgic after watching this video despite knowing (mostly) that I've never been a cat. :funlaugh2

He probably didn't like it, but he didn't intervene to put a stop to the war either. It was up to the men of that era to make decisions. If I had to guess, he probably thinks it's just business as usual. No. It didn't make a difference for me. I find putting an adjective in front of it hardly...

Okay. So some of them were Christian. It is regrettable, but that is the nature of war. Imperial Japan was not a friendly country, and frankly, they attacked us first. As I said, I think their deaths are regrettable. But as was evident throughout the rest of WW2, civilian deaths go hand in hand...

Yes. That's a picture of Japan after we bombed them with atomic weapons. They were not Christians, and the alternative, a full scale invasion of Japan proper, would have resulted in at least a million dead American Christian men.

The AI's response illustrated...

I can't quite remember, but we'll go with that. It sounds good. :funlaugh2

Edit: you expressed interest in finishing the discussion, so I'll leave it there.

It is only so because Christians have the force of the state to fall back on. Something happens, they call the police. But what if there is no police, or you don't have time? Protecting your family, including yourself, with lethal force, should not be considered a sin.

No.

I think it is. They didn't need words at the time. They needed soldiers that weren't afraid to kill the enemy. It was necessary. I dont know you or Desmond Doss personally. That being said, I think if all men were contentious objectors like him, we wouldn't have a military. We wouldn't have a...

Do you understand that the majority of men that fought and killed the Nazis in WW2 were Christian? Think about how your golden rule applies to reality. If we had taken this approach, the Nazis would have likely won the war and European Jews wouldn't exist today. I have to wonder what you would...

I'm not saying that people should do bad things. I'm saying they should be prepared to do bad things if it's ever necessary. But we live in the real world, Matthias. Using the golden rule principle would lead to entire countries falling apart. What does that entail? Realistically, should we...

Because he's not a man if he's unwilling to do bad things. Sometimes you're forced to do bad things for the greater good. That's how the world works.

I would agree. On the surface, I'm sure many Christians would reject the idea. But the truth is, you're always going to be the villain in someone else's story.

Not everyone gets it. But some do.

So you're taking the scenic route, eh? :funlaugh2

Very hot and muggy. It's rather unpleasant. hmmx1: