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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Explain how ONE RESURRECTION involving both the just and unjust at the same time doesn’t prohibit 1000 years.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Agree but a lot of it is our own selves. It was hard for me to admit to myself that I had been wrong all that time.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I remember how hard it was for me to come out of that belief system. It took years of people showing me things over and over that didn’t align with what I believed was the truth.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    That’s right Scott it does say the same thing and that “hour” was the ninth hour. Luk 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. Luk 23:45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst. Luk 23:46 And...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    When did the two resurrections in Daniel take place?
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yeah I agree and Daniel 12 is long gone.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    There’s only one gospel Peter believe God and it’s counted as righteousness. This existed before David with Abraham, through the entire Old Testament and exists today.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    No it doesn’t say it doesn’t use that exact phrase in either one but are you suggesting neither of those is Jacob’s trouble?
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Both groups in Revelation 20 are part of the first resurrection which matches exactly what Daniel says. Taking the thousand years as literal is throwing you off and making you think Daniel 12 is wrong. I assume you do believe Daniel 12’s account of a single resurrection consisting of the...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    There’s only one way to be saved and that’s by grace through faith whether it was Abraham, King David or me. There is only one gospel.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    That doesn’t override or even address Daniel showing that there is only one resurrection event.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I just realized I typed Daniel 2 instead of Daniel 12.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Spiritual descendants of Abraham is the same thing as saying they are saved.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    What does that have to do with Daniel 12 Peter? We are talking about how Daniel 12 shows one resurrection with two types of people being raised at that one resurrection - the just and the unjust that and they happen at the same time, not 1000 years apart.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I’m not a dispensationalist I was explaining what I thought dispensationalim was. But to answer your question, there have always been two types of Jews, flesh descendants of Israel and spiritual descendants of Abraham.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yes it was for those UNDER THE LAW. None of the Old Testament saints were under the law they were under grace just like Abraham was. The law DID NOT disanul grace.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Are you telling me that you read Daniel 12 and concluded that Daniel is “missing” something. Daniel tells you that during Jacobs trouble the just and the unjust are raised at exactly the same time.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The Jews and the church. Jews saved by law and grace, the church saved by grace, and then in the “great tribulation” Jews again just because they’re Jews.