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  1. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    May we all come together in submitting unto the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Scriptures in: "fighting against man-made doctrines" We are Saved by His Grace and we are to live under Grace and Truth showing Love and Mercy. i have not "arrived" but am still learning and seeking to abide in...
  2. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Thank you for those beautiful scripture verses. However, there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned in any of them. #1 TRUTH and 7 Reasons why the Church/Body of Christ goes thru the Great Tribulation = JESUS Said we must. John 16:33 "These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have...
  3. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    How many weeks did GOD Say was determined to: To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy.
  4. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Question: Could the Gospel to all nations be the "gap" in the 70th Week of Daniel chapter 9 ??? That is the only conclusion that i see from Scripture since the 70th Week itself is about CHRIST 24“Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression...
  5. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    #1 - Revelation has many layers to it as it Unfolds the Message #2 - pre-trib declares rapture before the Resurrection = which the Holy Spirit Says is a lie
  6. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Remain as you are = under false teachers and the lie of pre-trib rapture
  7. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Please keep in mind that "beginning" does not mean consumation. Sin began in the Garden from the Serpent to Eve to Adam = this was the BEGINNING of TRIBULATION upon the world Sin is Tribulation Sin always causes Tribulation Sin/Tribulation began in Genesis and increased to the point where...
  8. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    i have joy that you have not fallen prey to the above = it is a serious false doctrine that has been spreading
  9. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Calling JESUS words "pathetic" is a great sin Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear...
  10. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    pre-trib sssays: "Did Jesus really say He is Coming after the Tribulation to gather His Elect..." pre-trib sssays: Matt 24:29-31 is not for His Elect christians but only for the Jews pre-trib sssays: rapture BEFORE the Resurrection The HOLY SPIRIT Says "Resurrection before the rapture"...
  11. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    And this is the REASON why = Matthew chapters 21 thru 24 , Zechariah chapters 13 & 14 , Revelation and Isaiah 5Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger; the staff in their hands is My wrath. 6I will send him against a godless nation; I will dispatch him against a people destined for My rage, to take...
  12. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You and i were the "enemies of God" The Jewish people are the "enemies" and "betrayers" of the only means by which they can be Saved = Romans 11:28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the...
  13. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24which things are...
  14. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    Still not fulfilled as yet
  15. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    #1 - Because of what JESUS PROPHECIED to the Jews in Matthew chapters 21 thru 23 = refresh yourself in those chapters #2 - Zechariah chapters 13 thru 14
  16. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    God has brought them back to the land to Judge them there as well as the surrounding nations. Most of the Jews in Israel today would seek to murder JESUS just as their fathers did. It is ILLEGAL to preach the Gospel in Israel = they still persecute believers/saints Do not be deceived by modern...
  17. David in NJ

    Israel "the promised land"

    BOTH are True