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  1. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    God the FATHER is only to referred to as a 'HE', denoting Male Figurehead, thus HE is called FATHER The LORD Jesus Christ is only referred to as a 'HE' again denoting Male Figurehead, thus HE is called the only Begotten SON of the FATHER The HOLY SPIRIT is only referred to as a 'HE' again...
  2. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    virgins and not defiled by women is SYMBOLIC Your Mission, should you accept it, is to find out what the symbolism speaks of in actual Truth.
  3. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Do you believe the Twelve Tribes described here are Jews of the flesh?
  4. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The OT Declares only TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD The GOSPEL only Declares TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD The NT Apostles only Declare TWO Comings/Appearings of the LORD Get it wrong and you've been STRUCK-OUT THREE Times
  5. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    JESUS Said "the Flood swept them away" Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Chapter ▾ Par ▾ Str ▾) New International Version and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. New Living Translation...
  6. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Something very frightening that JESUS Said to the pharisees Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.
  7. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Not according to JESUS and the Truth given to us in Acts. There is a REASON why GOD allowed the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to, at FIRST, immediately fall upon those who believed. But you would not know that! <chuckles> <sigh> <cry>
  8. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    until ἕως (heōs) Conjunction Strong's Greek 2193: A conjunction, preposition and adverb of continuance, until. the ὁ (ho) Article - Nominative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite...
  9. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    JESUS Says "they" were "taken away by the Flood" = DESTROYED Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Chapter ▾ Par ▾ Str ▾) New International Version and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the...
  10. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    HalleluYAH my brother, Noah entered the ARK = pre-Flood = pre-Wrath = Gospel = 1 thess 1:10 New Living Translation And they speak of how you are looking forward to the coming of God’s Son from heaven—Jesus, whom God raised from the dead. He is the one who has rescued us from the terrors of...
  11. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    In Matthew 24:36-42 there are only two groups specified by the LORD 1st Group = "they were eating, drinking and given in marriage" 2nd Group = "the day Noah entered the Ark" The Wrath of GOD Descended the SAME Day for BOTH Groups = "as in the days of Noah" Only Noah(8 total) Survived the...
  12. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    100% AGREE = Now let us continue believing every word spoken by the LORD
  13. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    JESUS Says: BOTH will be taken SEE = But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39and did not know until the flood...
  14. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Well??? According to the words of the LORD, of the "two" = Who was taken away??? Please post the verse where the LORD was specific to exactly who was "taken" in Matthew 24:36-44
  15. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Whom did the LORD Say was "taken away" in Noah's Day = Matthew 24:36-44 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38For as in the days before the flood, they were...
  16. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Tribulation BEGAN when Eve was deceived by the Serpent. Count to 3 with me the "last days" began when: #1 - Christ defeated satan and sin on the Cross #2 - when HE rose from the Dead and Ascended to Heaven #3 - when the BAPTISM of the Holy Spirit Descended Upon the Elect of GOD All 3 MUST be...
  17. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Here is the exact specific words of our Savior and LORD “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in...
  18. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Was not the LORD very specific when HE said "Immediately after the tribulation of those days......I Come for MY elect" Crystal clear and very specific. Who has the authority to change these words of God???