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The AC can possibly be revealed ( not in power yet) and then, the rapture a week later. That is still a pretrib rapture. Or.....the AC can even take power and we get rounded up into huge out door compounds, With the rapture happening while all us wise virgins start rising up, and foolish (...

Paul Wilbur put those verses to song.

There is no disagreement in scripture. All the "postrib rapture talk" as well as the "pre or post wrath " talk...EVERY ONE OF THEM,omits or changes verses ONLY pretrib rapture fits. Ask ANY of them to post a verse pointing to postrib/ or post wrath position that is BACKED by scripture. I have...

Their dirty robes were washed in the blood. They are in heaven waving Palm branches They are those left behind ones and are martyred at the start of the 7 yr trib. Palm branches are waved for 7 days at the feast of tabernacles. Lev 23 40And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of...

I can not reconcile your timeline. Look at what you are saying. 1) The AC has no interest in the mark until AFTER the AOD. 2) The innumerable number are now a mixture of martyrs and others ( that needed their robes washed and came out of the trib) 3) it Does not say that they came out of "the"...

"Postrib".... is post Daniel's 70th week 7yr trib....7 yr tribulation Jacob's trouble. All one. Daniel confirms it as one. 69 weeks transpired I week in the future. Daniel says " in the MIDDLE OF IT" ( the middle of the 7 yr trib/middle of the 70th week) , the ac preforms the AOD. JESUS SAID...

QUOTE "If you believe 2 Thessalonians 2 does indicate that an apostasy has to happen first, then the man of sin will be revealed, our gathering together unto him at his Parousia does not fit on a typical pre-tribulation timeline. " Fits perfectly. The AC REVEALED. Not taking power yet. Then...

Y You got Noah and the flood wrong in Genesis. So maybe you are looking at it wrong

Their main banner is: "we get our doctrine from men. We get it from dead church fathers that never saw Israel re established and some even thought they were in the GT" " that is our foundation" they proclaim!!! They tell us they got their doctrine from men that were of limited revelation...

Paul as well as ALL THE APOSTLES preached the exact same message of salvation through Jesus. I sat under those hyperpauline teachers. EVERY ONE of them is cessationist. Hyperpauline doctrine is a heresy. They say as much outlandish nonsense as watchtower

Rev 14. (Gatherings way beyond the crafty postrib workbook.) The Holy Spirit says do not change my book. Hopefully you guys will eventually cast down that 1 coming, made up nonsense. Hope you realize your doctrine hangs on several threads. 1) desperately recrafting the 3 comings. 2) desperately...

Rev 14 DESTROYS every doctrine save the pretrib rapture doctrine. Hands down 100% destroyed. Aren't you glad you do not need to change a book that promised curses to whoever changes it? Seem like the Holy Spirit is serious about eschatology.

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I am pretrib and adhere closely to what Paul said. 1) falling away. 2) the A C REVEALED. ( Not in power, JUST REVEALED) ....AHEM...AS IN REVEALED , THEN the rapture the next day. Pretrib rapture is the only position that adheres to the bible. You guys omit or Reframe over six or eight verses...

Just rest that Jesus preached pretrib but in your mind of omission, Jesus never said it. You could care less if I did post them.

There is barely a chapter in Acts where the gospel is not accompanied by miracles signs and wonders. The primary focus? How about the casting down of miracles signs and wonders. There is a ditch On both sides of the road, if so I can go to extreme on one end. And end up in the ditch. And I...

Healing is part of the covenant. Transpose that attitude you have onto salvation. "If he wants to save me great, if not, great...." Well you will get nothing from God. The man of faith recieves ... The unlearned man believes healing is not part of the new covenant. And hates the power of God.

Pretty sure all hyperpaulines are cessationist. God is on vacation. No more miracles

What are you and Doug going to do when you need a miracle from a God that is weak and can not heal?

Jesus cursed the pharisees for diminishing God's power.