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  1. rebuilder 454

    Idioms used in the Bible

    Thanks!!! Keep them coming! Good thread.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Looks like we need a thread on the work of Christ after the cross when he descended to paradise. So many here are without that teaching.
  3. rebuilder 454

    Ten virgins

    The wise and foolish controlled it. In fact the wise refused oil to the foolish. It is inferred that the wise had given oil to the foolish in the past. Are you aware that in typology oil is a type of the Holy Spirit?
  4. rebuilder 454

    Ten virgins

    Actually, you are partially right in the idea of going back further. Because it was About 10 or 13 sentences earlier than the virgin parable that Jesus used same number, or percentage, of those left behind. Half went with the bridegroom .and half stayed behind....in both analogies. That half...
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    Ten virgins

    That Makes no sense. The oil could be imparted by another believer in the parable. Oil is a type of the Holy Spirit in typology. Bride =church Groom= Jesus Light =is what a believer gives off. Flame= is God in us making us "on fire " for God. Lamp =is a vessel for oil. We contain the Holy...
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    Ten virgins

    It is a rapture parable. The message is, When the bride groom comes, you better have your lamp full of oil. In other words, when he comes and you're not full of the Holy Spirit and you're a carnal believer, he's not picking you up.
  7. rebuilder 454

    Ten virgins

    There are several points in the pairable. There is one game changer in the parable. ....And that game changer is a difference between the wise and the foolish. Jesus vividly depicted the game changer as oil
  8. rebuilder 454

    Ten virgins

    Not unbelievers. Jesus vividly depicted them as believers.
  9. rebuilder 454

    Idioms used in the Bible

    Could you post a few?
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The 10 virgin parable fits the pretrib rapture. No postrib rapture is illustrated there. Re read it. There is zero trib attached to the parable. It Only fits a pretrib rapture doctrine
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The first resurrection is: Jesus and the patriarchs as firstfruits The dead in christ follow along with those raptured alive. Then those left behind and beheaded in the tribulation. 3 parts to harvest. Once you study the bride dimension and the harvest dimension, things begin to fit.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Ok I think I see the problem why you are paranoid to investigate the resurrection firstfruits. You adhere to soul sleep. I think you would need to study that concept first. Once you get that doctrine straight, you will be free to investigate . Right now, you are trying to corral verses to that...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    rebuilder 454 said: Those in paradise that Jesus descended to and preached the Gospel were resurrected and went to heaven. Keith reply: "Where are you getting that from? The word Paradise is only used three times in the Bible and Jesus is never said to descend to Paradise. Dead people can't be...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The foolish were not ready. The foolish were scrambling around for oil. You didn't get the point of the parable? Only one difference in the foolish and wise, was oil. Oil was the game changer. When the rapture occurs, only those with oil are the ready ones. Only those with oil are gathered...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The verses are referenced as a member requested earlier. Jesus does not rant. Maybe take the time to study.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The setting Jesus gave for the "one taken" was A pre-tribulation setting of, normal life, Commerce, planning for the future, everyday life....Etc. For your model to fit ,the world would have to be in total chaos, with millions of Christians beheaded, and actually, there would be no point for a...
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    Every rapture position is new

    He could be revealed to the church, a year before he ever does anything or takes power. Obama "was revealed" at least a Year before he took power, but he was not revealed as who he really was to all those low IQ's who were fawning all over him. He was revealed as evil, to anybody walking in...
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    Every rapture position is new

    The wise virgins departed, as did lot, Noah, the 144k, the Main harvest Jews of rev14:14, Jesus in acts 1,the baby Jesus, and the "ones taken" of mat 24. You got it exactly backwards.. Part of the mass misunderstanding is that Jesus tied the whole thing into harvest. I think what we see today...
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    Every rapture position is new

    ALL THE VIRGINS were looking for the groom and ALL WENT OUT TO MEET HIM. NONE of them were told to stay and be rewarded for staying. Really??? You totally missed the ingredient that the foolish ran out of???? Huh??? There is not a single component of the virgin parable that even remotely...
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    Every rapture position is new

    Not so fast. The wise virgins ,in JESUS VIVID PRETRIB RAPTURE depiction ,went to the marriage IN HEAVEN . No battle anywhere in Jesus depiction. So your deal is way way way off.