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It was Paul that said " to the Jew first, and also the Gentiles. Paul was arrested for preaching to the Jews. Wow, Paul really messed up huh? Maybe the other Holy Spirit you assume was on the Apostles was also leading Paul???? Look at the massive amount of time Paul invested in preaching to the...

Nope It was Paul that said " no scripture is of private interpretation" It was Paul That said, "why do you present yourselves as truth coming from within you? The only truth that you have either came from heaven. Or you were taught it of men." So your false assumption that Paul was the lone...

Really? The Holy Spirit that was upon Jesus, Peter, John, and James was just " messing around in not inspiring words" with everyone but Paul? Jesus was either preaching the correct way to heaven, or he was not. ( dear Lord...how can ANYONE POSSIBLY MESS THAT UP????) You actually think Jesus...

Pure hogwash Every word. Look at all Paul's ordinances. ( laws) Do the women of your church cover their heads? Paul shaved his head in keeping a vow. (Law). Most hyper paulines do not know of all Paul's ordinances, (laws) but they get some flyspeck and condemn the Apostles and Jesus himself...

Look at acts the last chapter IT SAYS TWICE that Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom. Maybe he should have included the cross???? The argument of the paulines is ridiculous.

Lol Do some kind of reality check. Look at your vile nasty post. It is that same spirit that attacks pretribbers, calling them names INSISTING we are guided by Satan. Too funny how you guys seem to be devoid of the spirit of God.

Just pretend " before the flood, one taken/left" is not spoken by Jesus himself. Then convince yourself that Lot was rescued AFTER Sodom burned. Oh wait...you already do that and more.

They actually think of eschatology as salvation itself. It is akin to communism." Follow my weird concepts or die" You and I are brothers but disagree on some things. Saved and family. Postribbers call their pretribber brothers "satan and demons going to hell" That alone should steer the...

No I do not believe " they are the same event", just like I don't believe everyday of Jesus earthly walk was the same event. ( even though I can say his earthly ministry is one event.) There can be many many events in one event Ex. ☆The plagues in Egypt ☆The 40 years of wondering by the...

Matt 24 JESUS SAID. BEFORE THE FLOOD , one taken, one left. JESUS SAID his coming will be with "normal life, commerce and everyday activities"..( in DIRECT CONFLICT TO YOU AND Mr LIGHT) Oh...and in that framing of " before the flood, normal life, and everyday activities," Jesus TELLS US to...

EXCELLENT. You got something correct Yeah, you tried so hard to make that phrase. "Power and great glory" go away. But you just can't wiggle out of it. You got so many things wrong. I don't even know where to begin, but you've hinged your entire doctrine on a farce. I see the post trippers do...

4 horsemen slaughter and wrath is definately tribulation. The White horseman kicks off the great 7 YEAR tribulation. Then all he'll breaks lose on earth. Rev6 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. Millions killed. But to you...

QUOTE "Sending His angels to gather the elect is certainly not a war. It's a harvest. It's a rapture." Huh??? There is nothing there of a rapture...zero...nothing!!! Angels ( NOT JESUS) gather from heaven (NOT EARTH). EVERY RAPTURE VERSE has Jesus gathering. What is a dispensation?

You are so focused on words "seal" and "seals", you can not understand Jesus returns on white horses in power and great glory.i already showed you that NOWHERE does he return in any rapture in " power and great glory " But you are determined to miss interpret Rev 6 alongside mat 24. You...

Ahem. Post wrath IS POST TRIB. Jesus IN NO WAY AND NOPLACE returns prewrath in power and great glory. BTW, "the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our God" IS POST ARMEGEDDON. So you are confusing many things in trying to make "trib" and "great trib" of Jesus words in mat 24 as...

QUOTE "At the end of wrath, the armies of heaven come for Armageddon. How long it takes the kings of the earth to gather their armies is irrelevant" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this: Rev 6 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief...

QUOTE "your saying when Jesus shows up at the 6th seal with Him angels to gather the elect that He won't be in power and glory?" You really need to read Rev 6. Then you will properly place the earthquake and blood moon and the sun blackened. ( which will cause you to understand "immediately...

Have you actually read Matthew? 24 in context with revelation 6? It says "after the tribulation of those days". When you quoted that scripture, you minimized "of those days" If you read the last part of revelation six, it tells you what those days are. They are the final days of the judgment...

None of Rev 6, and 7 passes ANY chronology test. The Jews are sealed and locusts are released AFTER your Rev 6 verses. Those items are happening early on in the trib. You are placing chronology where it does not fit.

1) All rapture verses of the church are peacetime normal life , commerce , and everyday life. 2) the rapture of the Jewish main harvest(nothing remotely to do with the church) is DURING THE TRIB. That harvest has zero to do with power and great glory...zero. It is VIVIDLY depicted in Rev 14:14...