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  1. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Rev 14:14 is one return, but not the second coming. Got that out of the bible.
  2. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Didn't mean to get you frustrated. But you actually prove my point. You can not show me where the 2 witnesses enter their time of prophecy AT THE EXACT SAME MOMENT as the beast takes power. As I said, they prophesy for 42 months DURING the 7 yr trib. Which is a period Of time within a period of...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Only Jews are harvested. You left out that the firstfruits are harvested first. Do a study of harvest. Firstfruits are the first part of the harvest. Immediately PRECEDE main harvest 100% of the time. The bible goes to an extreme to get the reader to understand the 144 k FIRSTFRUITS are...
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    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Yes It is doctrine and illustrated many places in the bible
  5. rebuilder 454

    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Bingo Not only that but Rev 19 has Jesus ruling nations with a rod of iron after the slaughter of meggido
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    The post trip rapture ,is actually correctly called "the revamp of the Bible". We can't have acts 1 say what it says. We can't have Matthew 24:30 Say what it says we can't have Matthew. 25 VS 1 through 14 say what they say. We cannot have revelation 14 verse 14 say what it says. We cannot...
  7. rebuilder 454

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Every one of those verses fit the pretrib rapture like a glove. Ahem..unless to inject additives like some resurrection and a non existent uturn of that resurrection that is not there either in.matt 24;31
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    2nd Coming after the 7 yr trib is Rev 19 the white horses. No rapture verse fits it. But yes Matt 24 30 is the 2nd Coming. No brainer
  9. rebuilder 454

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Only the army of the ac is killed. Local holy land event. Rev 19.
  10. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    This is not different from what I posted. The 2 witnesses DO NOT enter and form the beginning of the trib. They enter the picture DURING THE TRIB. so the trib can not be JUST 3,5 years. You are making an assumption that is incorrect. IOW indirectly you are proving it is, in fact, not 3.5 years...
  11. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    The 2 witnesses prophesy 42 months. That 3.5 years is a portion of time WITHIN A PORTION OF TIME. 7 Years is stated in Daniel. Take it up with God He wrote it .
  12. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    What you need to do is get a little context. The 144k FIRSTFRUITS PRECEDE the JEWS gathered in vs 14 ( ahem...not by Jesus in power and glory as a warrior which is tge ACTUAL second coming) Firstfruit JEWS. JEWISH ONLY FIRSTFRUITS. That automatically REQUIRES a Jewish MAIN HARVEST. But it...
  13. rebuilder 454

    THE DAY OF THE LORD AND THE CHURCH

    Not only that but lot and Noah were both saved pretrib. Jesus did not mis speak when he said "before the flood one taken the other left behind watch and be ready" We see postribs butcher EVERY RAPTURE VERSE, then high five themselves while standing in a pile of error.
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Most postribbers MUST incorporate the "one coming " error. I suppose they were forced to erroneously add that as they painted themselves into an impossible corner. Hard to wiggle out of that conundrum that their theory put them in. Plus all rapture verses are Peace time, everyday life...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    3.5 years is true. It is a segment of tge 7 year trib. We get 7 years from Daniel. 7 year great trib as Jesus called it.
  16. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Rev 14 is not the rapture of the church, nor is it the second coming on white horses. Acts one " like manner" can not POSSIBLY fit what you present as a coming in war and power to a destroyed planet.( ahem, conversely it is OPPOSITE your smoking gun) Matt 24 "before the flood one taken/ left"...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Most everything is incoherent to you. You are so busy obsessing over every word I say, confusion has become your portion. You are getting crazy in here. You need a hobby or something.
  18. rebuilder 454

    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    All that you posted depends on a phrase. "Last trump" Ironically you ( and all postribbers) never look at rapture verses. Instead you are obsessed with thumping the rapture verses. It is futile trying to come up with one word smoking guns when the BIBLE SAYS "ALL DIE who refuse tge mark"...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    You seriously need a break before you blow a gasket in your venom and hatred. Your tired of being owned by others in your doctrine that I have blown apart. That is why you hate any challenge.. You made a HUGE INVESTMENT in a doctrine that took you to the desert and died right out from under you.