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Hi Bold, Let's take a closer look at Jeremiah's prophecy. Jer. 30:3-10 - "For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall...

Hi Bold, Your words: "The raptured DO NOT get glorified bodies (1 Cor. 15:52)" Of course we get glorified bodies, vss. 53, 54, incorruptible and immortal bodies! Those of your quote: "The raptured put on a form of immortality (Is. 65:20) so that someone who dies (during the 1000 years) at 100...

Hi Retro, Yes, I believe they're one and the same. I see only one great trib. Hi Bold, Please ignore post 7 as I mis-read what you wrote. Your words: "In the Jewish Diaspora, over 12 Million Jews were killed. 3 Million in the beginning during the Roman-Jewish war (66-73 AD), Israel was...

Hi Bold, I can see we might be having some "discussions" in the near future but one quick thing for now. The time of Jacob's trouble is not equal to the great trib, imo. they are separate events for separate groups of people. Israel, of course for Jacob's trouble and the great trib is satan's...

Hi Marcus, Here's my response to the first half of post #7. The rest will probably take a while as I started studying one thing, which led me to another and then another, whew, it's going on and on! Your words: “You can believe what you want, but Joel 2:31 dictates that the sun/moon/star sign...

Thanks for the info. I selected the manage polls but couldn't figure out how to bring the topic over to "start new topic". I thought it would do it automatically after I put in the poll title and questions and selected "finish", but it didn't. A little help, please.

How does one start a poll?

Hi Marcus, I'm in the middle of replying to post #7 but you made this statement: "Likewise, the two battles fought on the Day of the Lord from the Old Testament - which reveals what is in store for the Jews left behind (SoS 5:2-6) - can be fought in a single day. This is repeated often in OT...

Hi Marcus, Your words: "There are two earthquakes on the Day of the Lord and this is revealed with the opening of the sixth Seal." Well, this may be a reason as to why we see things differently. Am I correct in assuming you view the Day of the Lord as a single day? I believe the Day of the...

Hi Marcus, Your words: "Because John tells us it comes right before the seventh Angel with the seventh Trumpet is about to sound. Rev 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the...

If you were to consider the biblical prophecies as mostly symbolic, than I understand why a person could get frustrated trying to understand things that could have a myriad of possibilities to their fulfillment. Personally, while acknowledging some symbolism is used, I believe in taking the...

Hi Retro, My words, “I'll say it again, Israel is not the Olive Tree! The ‘tree' is the 'way to God,' 'the path of righteousness by faith' however you want to put it.” Your words, “Oh, really? Then, why did Paul say, Romans 11:24 – “For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by...

Hi Aspen, Your words, "I think most people know about Christian eschatology - in fact, I think it is the most preached about subject within Christianity." In my opinion, I would say it's the 'least" preached subject in Christianity. Most of the churches I've attended or visited avoid the topic...

Hi Retro, Well, I must say that you seem to be over-reacting a bit. I think we talked back and forth enough so you should know that anytime I mention the righteous, it is the righteousness of Christ that is implied not our own righteousness. Your words: "So, Israel has no place in the New...

Hi Marcus, You've done a pretty good job at presenting your idea of the end times and the majority of it does seem to preserve the pre-wrath viewpoint, however, while I believe pre-wrath brings us a few steps closer to understanding the end-times, I don't, as a pre-wrather, believe it is the...

Hi Retro, We’ve been down this path before and we both believe we are correct in our understanding of scripture, but you nailed it at the end of your post. Your words: “And, finally, there’s nothing special about the “church” itself. It is the PEOPLE - the BELIEVERS in the Messiah - WITHIN the...

Hi Retro, I was writing what Israel is looking for and things that will be important for them. I don't see the a/c backing the Torah to the intent expressed but I do believe that for a short while, he will get them to the point where sacrifices will resume. The a/c, in my opinion, will have two...

What gets me is how people can read verses like…: Matt. 24:24 - "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." …then turn around and believe that a blood-thirsty...

Hi Keras, I'll be writing more on this soon, but your statement: "That the Great Tribulation is the seven Trumpet and seven Bowl punishments is clear from how the Sixth Bowl prepares the way for the gathering of those armies for their destruction at Armageddon." is in my opinion, not correct...

Hi Retro, Two things. Your words: "However, the Messiah is an ISRAELI concept!" I would say that it is God's concept, revealed to Israel but always meant to include Gentiles. Your words: "...Goyim would be an appendix to the promises to Israel." The main promise was to Abraham and not Israel...