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Show me where he comes in power and great glory. Show me in scripture. Only one place. Rev 19. After the wrath Your entire deal hinges on you making a word " tribulation " some foundation of misinterpretation. You now have Jesus With a sickle sitting on a cloud transposed into a Warrior king...

Quote: "The Word is talking about the tribulation of those days which is over with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal as proven by Matthew 24. Wrath is the 7th seal." Then Jesus was mistaken when he said "then shall there be great tribulation such as has never been seen, and will Never be seen...

It is your doctrine saying matt24 is not Rev 19 when ONLY Rev 19 fits.

Only in your mind does the "Jesus comes in power and great glory " fit Rev 14. Sitting ? Holding a sickle.?

It all stems from your displacement of Matt 24. Read it 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. It that Rev 14??? Nope Is that...

Nope You are claiming the white horses at the 6th seal. Ahem....which has the ac thrown into the lof IOW you have the lof at the 6th seal Way off

You just placed the LOF at the 6th seal. Huh?????

Bingo. Yep yep yep. Acts 1 in no way can be transposed onto your verses. Decisely points ONLY to a pretrib rapture!!!! Thank you!!!!!

QUOTE "Jesus was right when he said we will have tribulation in this world. Paul knew that all too well didn't he. Ater enduring beatings, stoning's and whipping several times he lost his head." We all know tribulation is promised. Are you say some trial you are going through is exactly...

Lol You just proved my point. Thank you. You guys work tirelessly to torture that bible to make it say something else. Blame Jesus for telling you that AFTER THE TRIB angels gather FROM HEAVEN. PSSSST .....THE SAINTS IN HEAVEN ARE GATHERED TO THE WHITE HORSES. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY ARE...

You already have been shown around 10 times angels gather in heaven in your supposed only non verse you claim supports your mental eschatology. So stop lying. Just ridiculous how you misrepresent Holy Scriptures in your reckless quest.

Quote by light "They do not overlap. Scripture clearly says immediately after the tribulation Christ will come and then the wrath of God will begin" Way way off. Read this. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat...

Wow. Way off. You have transposed Jesus coming in power on white horses onto Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle. Your deal is impossible. Jesus comes on white horses. Destroys the ac and his army. Hello...the ac is in power during the wrath.

QUOTE "what is 100% accurate based on the Word of God and then figure out your other error." POT <> KETTLE BIG TIME THE ONLY PLACE JESUS RETURNS IN POWER AND A WARRIOR IS REV 19. YOU HAVE REV 19 AND THE AC DESTROYED PREWRATH WAY, WAY OFF ALL because you can not discern Matt24 is indeed Rev...

We agree the 2 raptures. The white horses before the wrath thingy is impossible.

Quote: "once you put the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 at the 6th seal it is going to mess up your timeline. It won't make sense because you have forced another error because of the error in the place of the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24." One you understand Jesus coming on white horses mid...

I agree. Could be we only disagree on your placement of Noah and Lot

1 wrath ALWAYS HAS TRIBULATION. EVERY SINGLE TIME. SEE this is how we know you are confusing trib and wrath. There was no reason for Jesus to consult anyone on if he could call the 7 yr tribulation something else. Jesus had no reason to make it fit your doctrine. Matt 24 is in fact the coming...

"""Additionally...........the woman, Israel, that has fled to a place of protection prepared for her will be on earth during the wrath of God. But they won't experience wrath""" Again you do not understand Trib Wrath Jewish gathering Or Rev 14. The woman ushered to safety is during the first...

Ok 1) you do no include and do not understand first fruits.( 144 JEWISH FIRSTFRUITS) You are not aware that we would have to have a JEWISH MAIN HARVEST????? How can so many not actually read Rev 14?????? 2) Rev 14 IN NO WAY fits you " all the tribes shall mourn, and Jesus coming in great...