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We all agree he returns postrib

You just posted verses that line up perfectly with the pretrib rapture

1) the Ac kills all refusing the mark 2) those left behind are martyred as is declared in Revelation. 3) the 2 escape verses are a big problem for the honest Bible student 4) "like manner return" is EXACTLY opposite your model . 5) Rev 14 :14 is not the white horse return...even in the most...

Seems like you are trying to prove that God has never gathered up his people and delivered them pre-tribulation. And so you're going to have a hard time with that because you got Lot ,and the baby Jesus, both gathered up and delivered pre-tribulation. Now let's take a look at Noah . way...

Anyone can see normal life , commerce, building, planting. Your model is OPPOSITE THAT. YOU ARE PRETENDING the words are not there. Your doctrine did that to you.

Total and complete opposite of what you just twisted the Bible. Luke 17 26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the...

Read we who overcomes who in Rev. Amazing your doctrine never goes there! Post trib Doctrine is oblivious to the fact That the Antichrist is given power To overcome the Saints...HUH???? then it talks about The believer Overcoming The Antichrist . It says That the believer Overcomes the...

So you are saying Jesus sitting on a cloud, holding a sickle, not wearing a crown, not commanding an army, and no sword in his hand, is actually Jesus sitting on a white horse , with millions of white horses blackening the sky, commanding an army, with a sword in his hand, a crown on his head...

Maybe he can apologize for Lot removed pretrib and his angels claiming he will come in "like manner". Then that "fibber Jesus" , as you call him, can understand He is supposed to come after Sodom destroyed, and after the flood to gathered Lot and Noah. Then correct his fibber angels, that His...

What does oil represent in the Bible? Does it ever represent the Holy Spirit.? Is the white horse coming at the rapture?

In Acts chapter 1 we see Jesus ascending into heaven with the angels declaring to the disciples that "this same Jesus shall return in like manner." That is not on horses, millions of them, blackening the sky, with a warrior king leading them into battle. Revelation 14 and verse 14, has Jesus...

rebuilder 454 said: Psssst...both lot and Noah are gathered pretrib. SI quote "Pre-wrath. Which I agree with. Stop misrepresenting my view." Normal life, then the flood . Sodom the same. Noah and Lot gathered pretrib. No way to wiggle out of it. Your model in no way fits.

I am not the one getting shellaced by the Bible. You are, along with your false doctrine that can not address the 3 comings. Nor can it address the "one taken" of mat 24, or the "like manner" of Acts 1. "Before the flood" is the "sister analogy" of Lot removed pretrib, and both have normal life...

Rapture verses are prewrath AND pretrib. Normal life, buying and selling. You model is way off. There is zero buying and selling with out the mark. No normal life, and a blood bath. In fact anyone refusing the mark is martyred. So your model is 100% backwards In your model, all are protected...

Lol No way you can debate me. It ain't gonna happen. Glad to do so anytime you get a bible. Take a concept and start . Probably not.

Somebody has a bible and reads what it says. You must be a pretribber.

Even when I post the reference, you claim Jesus sitting on a holding a sickle, and commanded By Angels to harvest the Earth , is actually not Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle, and told to harvest the Earth.

The coming on white horses is not, nor can it possibly be, the rapture.

Rev 14: 14 you are shown about 15 times. Mat 24:38 again and again for 100 times. None of it sticks. ...and never will

QUOTE """we have anything other than your word for it? The bible does not paint a picture of His saved sheep as one where most of them will not be resurrected?""" 1) the virgin parable has no mention at all of any Resurrection maybe somebody can say it's implied I don't know but I think you're...