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  1. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Quote """As explained it would not be Jesus that made any mistake there. Guess who that leaves?""" You claimed unwittingly Jesus is demented, as you decided to go against his Bible. Then you did it again. "Clear" has never been a factor in your low info resposes. Pretty sure I did post them...
  2. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Uttermost part of earth is the atmosphere.
  3. rebuilder 454

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Jesus is the truth. Jesus vividly declared 3 comings. No way to wiggle out of that.
  4. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    QUOTE """Nonsense, of course I know rewards are based on works. If you stopped casting firebrands long enough and take a breath, you might realize that the resurrection and salvation are not the rewards given at that seat! We get Raptured to get there first of all! How dare you accuse others of...
  5. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Woah Take a second look at your claim "No. One is the Rapture in the air and the other is His return to earth. Nothing wrong about that" You just exposed the postribber fallacy. You just admitted to 2 comings. Yes indeed, there are 2 comings exactly as you stated. That alone destroys the...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    I just posted a link to 6PAGES of the use of "heis" (one) in the Bible. That is over 100 instances of "one" used. Try and insert "unity" instead of "one", as you claim is the "correct" word selection. Ahem...none of those verses work under your theory. Always use strongs as a reference...
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    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g1520/kjv/tr/0-1/
  8. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    All need to educate themselves into the Bible we can trust and depend on. NIV = "not. Inspired version"
  9. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    https://www.preservedword.com/content/the-unreliablitity-of-the-alexandrian-manuscripts/
  10. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    I looked it up. The texts receptus has it as "are one" I suspect that Greek text you quote is Alexandria text.
  11. rebuilder 454

    The KJV of the Holy Bible is based on what? A question for all the KJO folks.

    To deny Jesus is creator , is to deny Him entirely. I hate that all watchtowers choose hell. It is their choice.
  12. rebuilder 454

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    You left out the pretrib verses. That is how you debate. Virgin parable is wise taken pretrib. Your doctrine has 50% of the earth saved, 50% unsaved. JESUS used that 50% dynamic TWICE, side by side. You can't just list verses and magically get the Bible to agree outside context. You can not...
  13. rebuilder 454

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Any dynamic of more than one coming destroys every single postribber hope of their Doctrine. Hands down blows it away
  14. rebuilder 454

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Maybe heaven owes Lot an apology. God broke your irrefutable pattern. Wow the audacity of heaven.
  15. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Dad QUOTE """Yes, it is wise to believe in and accept Jesus and get saved! It is foolish not to. Now if you want to talk about intelligence, or gifts, or education, or wealth, etc there are believers that are quite different. When it comes to the gift of God He gives all who come to Him, it is...
  16. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I am appalled that such basic kindergarten Christianity escapes some believers. They have no idea that there are spiritual versus carnal believers. I guess they have sat in churches ( most likely Baptist Churches), where every single sermon is on salvation. they hear things like "eternal...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    rebuilder 454 said: Someone might say there are smart dogs and stupid dogs. Now to be consistent we cannot say if they're not smart they cannot be dogs. That would be ridiculous. It is the same with the parable. these are the same exact dynamic of believers. Dads QUOTE """No the dynamic is...
  18. rebuilder 454

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    If you want to pretend there are not carnal vs spiritual believers that is your business. Maybe teach postribbers that running out of oil conclusively tells them they never had any, then tell them Jesus and Paul are incorrect depicting two classes of believers in Rev 4 and 1 Corinthians. All...
  19. rebuilder 454

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    You do a tiny bit better than SI. Some of your stuff is thoughtful. I think SI is working through some issues. That is possibly why he brings all the chatter to the table.
  20. rebuilder 454

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    To rest and go back until their number is fulfilled. It gets fulfilled right away. Note that the innumerable number in heaven are martyrs out of the great tribulation, and the martyrs population is no longer confined to "under the altar". Easy to see their number is fulfilled at that point...