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The fig tree (the covenant Jews),has 2 Gatherings in rev 14 Firstfruits are vs 1-4 Main harvest vs 14. Fig tree = Jewish harvest. Grapes = Jewish harvest Jew is the fruit harvest The church is the Gentile harvest, the bride as depicted in Rurh. The grain harvest...also depicted in Ruth. The...

Show me an example of where I did that

The 2nd Coming is on white horses.( yes Rev 19) Again I ask Is that the rapture? Very simple question.

You amil adherent?

I guess if Satan is already bound then the AC has come and gone many many years ago, huh?

No. They are amil. The most twisted end times mismatched buffets you could belly up to. One bizarre grand canyon leap after another. Ask them if Satan is bound, and all the other stuff they shove into history.

Pot <> kettle Jr. Either debate or go pester someone else.

I Do not have a TV in my house. So your little analogy most likely applies to yourself. I have been in this end times study for over 40 years. It is I that brought " before the flood" of mat 24 to the table as well as the virgin parable and Rev 14, the gathering of the Jews. I never heard...

Rev 14 in no way is the coming of Jesus. It is the gathering of the Jews to heaven. It is The covenant Jews grafted back in through Jesus. I think you need to understand what you're reading and Revelation 19. It says after these things. It says after the things that have been described in the...

No offense but I think you got off by making a major division in the GT as " wrath" vs "trib". I think that led you into also dividing the Lot and Noah gatherings into two separate gatherings, and placing the white horses in a mid trib setting (postrib/prewrath setting).

Nope None of that changes the fact that the 144k are a distinct Jewish sub group of the remnant Jews.

Rev 15 starts with wrath poured out but is in no way the second coming at the end of the 7yr gt. Explain all this; Rev16 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of...

Sad your bad attitude. So hateful I feel for you.

It is like you defend the notion of harvest as gibberish.

No SPECIFICALLY NUMBERED in TWO SEPARATE methods so as to debunk any attempt to merge them into something other than what is vividly depicted as a totally separate group. Yes as we see in romans 11. Time of Gentiles completed, and God now deals with the Jews in a separate harvest. Without the...

The 144,000 mentioned in Revelation several times ,are specifically declared first fruits. First fruits is the first part of the Harvest. it is a small section of the main Harvest, and is gathered first. ( and of course the 144k Jews are gathered first rev 14 :1-4), ahead of the main Jewish...

This is wrong on several fronts. 1) Rev 14 is not the white horse coming. Impossible. Totally different. 2) it is the Jewish harvest. 144k firstfruit JEWS. This is the regrafting of romans 11. At that point Jesus is depicted sitting on a cloud holding a sickle in Revelation and verse 14 and he...

Because you have no understanding of the Jewish people being brought back and being grafted back in and gathered unto God vividlyillustrated in rom 9,10 and 11. The entirety of the tribulation Is Jacob's trouble ,which is directed directly to the Jewish people that God will regather. his...

Any verses I refer to are immediately cast down and stomped, illustrating your heart and disrespect for God's word.

Lol. Just keep thinking harvest can not possibly be depicted in the Bible through harvest. Just keep telling yourself that. Firstfruits Don't investigate any of that dimension. Wow...even harvest needs modifying in your deal. What a straight Jacket confine the Bible is to you guys. No...