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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    IMO: Enoch and Elijah (who are never said to have died) are the two witnesses (Revelation 11:3-13).
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    "Angel" in the New Testament is Greek αγγελος = messenger. Revelation 1:20. It's a figure of speech, like calling an actress or an athlete a star.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    rebuilder 454 noted: "incorrect" That is a logical fallacy known as "begging the question." If you disagree, then I invite you to explain why *from the Bible.*
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    The FOUR HORSEMEN of the Apocalypse

    "Four horsemen" is a poetic way of describing events that will occur. A horseman is a rider or driver of horses.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The stars in the sky are stationary, but the nine planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) are not stationary. They all orbit the sun ("wander"). Today we know that the planets are fundamentally different from the stars, but the ancients had no way of...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    rwb noted <Genesis 37:9 (KJV) sun, moon, 11 stars> Yes, IMO in the metaphorical context of Genesis 37:9 "sun, moon, eleven stars" takes the meaning "father, mother, eleven brothers."
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    RWB asked: "Star" represents multiple things, it depends upon the context. That particular context IMO warranted angels.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    IMO: Genesis 37:9 "wandering stars" refers to Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. The ancients did not discern the difference between stars and planets. How could they?
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    Why the great chain?

    Marty Fox asked about "chain." IMO: Satan is a cherub with a physical body, no reason he could not be chained, with a strong ("great") chain. Sad, because he at one time served in the very Presence of God, in the true temple in heaven.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    My opinion: o The woman is the nation Israel. o The sun is Jacob. o The moon is Jacob's wife Rachael--and by extension his wife Leah, as well as his concubine Bilhah, and Leah's maid Zilpah, all of whom bore sons to Jacob. o The twelve stars are the twelve sons of Jacob, progenitors of the...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    "Day of the Lord" is a figure of speech referring to the events that will occur during this time. The church has always suffered tribulation (John 16-33). My model is pre-great-tribulation (Matthew 24-21). The Bible says, "The Lord will come suddenly to his temple" (Malachi 3:1). No temple, no...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    "Day of the Lord" is a figure of speech referring to the events that will occur during this time. IMO the rapture is indicated in the following verses: o. Revelation 11:12 o. Revelation 14:16 o. John 14:2-3 o. 1Corinthians 15:51-53 o. 1Thessalonians 4:15-17 This is at the midpoint of the...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    IMO: "Great tribulation" is indicated in Matthew 24:21. The "rapture" is indicated in John 14:2-3, 1Corinthians 15:51-53, 1Thessalonians 4:15-17, Revelation 11:12, 14:1. The rapture begins at the midpoint of the final (70th) seven, see Daniel 9:24-27. The rapture occurs when Jesus descends to...
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    THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN: How "shortly"?

    IMO: o "Seven seals" refers to seven dabs of wax sealing a rolled-up scroll. o "Seven trumpets" signals attention to the reading of the scroll. o "Seven bowls" (of hot oil, method of torture) are severe judgments ordained in the scroll.
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    The book of Mormon was authored by Joseph Smith Jr. (1805-1844), an illiterate lying vagabond...

    The book of Mormon was authored by Joseph Smith Jr. (1805-1844), an illiterate lying vagabond born in Sharon, VT. He dictated it to a scribe, using his imagination and also using verbatim copying from books available to him. It is nonsense. He met his demise in Kirtland, Ohio when a group of...
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    Revelation 4 interpretation

    IMO: These people are merely removed from a battlefield temporarily. The apostle Paul was caught up to heaven (2Corinthians 12:2), was he immortal?
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    Revelation 4 interpretation

    This is the true temple in heaven, no men. I presume the elders are angels.
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    The Beast Revelation

    Anchorite noted: "laid on him the iniquity." IMO: Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus, who was slain by the Romans at the behest of Pilate. Hence the players here include: o Satan o Judas o Pilate o Roman executioners o Everyone of us (since all sinned in Adam, Romans 5:15)...
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    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    Revelation 13:12 says: "...και ποιει την γην και τους εν αυτηι κατοικουντας ινα προσκυνησουσιν το θηριον..." "...and he makes the *LAND* and those inhabiting it worship the beast..." There was no concept of planet *EARTH* in Biblical times.
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    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    "Everyone on earth" IMO is a misleading translation. The New Testament was written in Greek, and this phrase (Revelation 13:8) is Greek: παντες οι κατοικουντες της γης all. those. inhabiting. the. land There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.