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What you just pointed out is the power of God and his forgiveness. Not a WORK of baptism. Baptism has zero to do with removal of sin. Zero

The Jews are gathered mid trib in Rev 14. The gentile church is the bride gathered pretrib. All rapture verses are pretrib setting. Every single one is peacetime,normal life, and commerce. No other position can compare to the pretrib rapture.

Lol Mat 24 and Luke 17 describe the setting and timing of prejudgement in both instances. No way was either taken in the setting of some postrib doctrine. It just flat out is impossible. It has to be 2 entirely different events in mat24 One the second coming postrib. The other is the rapture...

Where ? Mat 24 Mar 25 Rev 19 Rev14 Acts1 Like17 Just a few. Stop saying I didn't answer. I am not worried if it is 3 yrs or 20 years. You guys miss the tree ,and endlessly chop at leaves on branches, when you have no idea the purpose or the GT, or the purpose of the rapture. Understand the...

Yawn Will await your interpretation of the virgins parable. Remember a babe in christ could interpret it So simple and vivid.

It is so easy . But you can not do it. No postrib can. But that is not the most alarming thing. The alarming thing is that it should bring red flags to your own doctrine. But I will await your next little personal attacks, and hiding from the virgins parable. I totally understand why you dodge...

All you got at this point is personal attacks huh???

Mat 25 virgin parable is the rapture. Are you aware that the rapture is the gathering of the bride?????. Rev14:14 is a gathering of Jews mid trib. Rev 19: is the return with the saints. Pretrib rapture is the easiest doctrine to defend. I can do it easily. I can debate your best people. They...

Waiting on SI to enlighten.

Nope Reread it. It took 7 days to float the ark. Your colleague was wrong. Lol Thats the second time you omitted the setting change of vs 38. Ridiculous.

You "explain" things to yourself. You did nothing to actually engage verses that blow away your nasty posts against members here. You belligerence has not impressed anyone here.

A number no man can count are before the throne, beheaded by the ac DURING THE TRIB. YOU..." No they were just hated on. No harm ever came to those 100 billion people."

Lol All of them but John were murdered by the devil. Try again.

Word salad. Nothing of your post true.

Unpack mat 25, the gathering of the bride. I will wait.

Well Jr, I am far from a child, but your tactics are weak, as you are demonstrating by going personal. I suppose your doctrine has skipped over "before the flood" for so long,it totally has become invisible. That may be a good starting place since it is so vivid. Psssst...your doctrine has The...

There are 2 distinct and separate comings in mat 24 There are 2 distinct gatherings in rev14. (Actually 3). MAtt 25 has the groom gathering the bride. Rev has the warrior general Jesus leading His already gathered to heaven saints BACK TO earth as a conquering King. maybe try to factor in some...

If they martyr all refusing the mark, ( yes indeed according to the word) then a chaotic or orderly removal of all believers is kinda a moot point.

My only claim is that revealed only means revealed. When was Obama revealed? Before or after he took power? I know...you can not address it. It is a no brainer,and it is so easy to see. The ac revealed is , a pretrib rapture concept.

QUOTE.."I believe He talks about things related to His second coming from Matthew 24:23 to the end of the discourse in Matthew 25:46. I don't see any change of subject in verse 36. I believe the gathering of the elect mentioned in verse 31 is a reference to the rapture and by reading Matthew...