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30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. He only comes in power and great Glory after the wrath ( actually post 7 yr tribulation...

Where do you find 45 days of wrath? What your model seems to be is Jesus returns before ( whatever it is you want to call the 7 yr gt) ...is over. You seem to have Jesus returning during the "wrath".

Noah returned AFTER the flood. I do not see where Jesus returns, and is on earth during the 7 yr GT ( trib then wrath as you would say) He returns in power after the 7 yr GT. Rev 19. No return prewrath. Rev 14 is 2 gatherings to heaven. No return to earth.

hmmmm, For some reason I got a smile on my face when I read this. A+ for style. Lol

Not sure, but appears we agree on this

Where in that chart is the rapture "before the flood/ Sodom destroyed?"

Are you saying Jesus is on earth during what you call the wrath period?

If I remember correctly we do agree on several things. I think we differ on the Matthew 24 ,( the after the tribulation coming in great power and Glory). I think you're trying to say that that's pre wrath or something like that,? However I don't think that's true, I think that Matthew 24...

Yes I have to believe my God is able to put into my hands His word. The TR.

Stop dodging and tell us the position of watchtower. Is Jesus Michael the archangel. So simple and you struggle with a nothingburger

...as if they are not in here deceiving and lying. All my posts are spot on. That is what you can not refute.

Last I remember they got off the "michael" thingy. They also ditched the 144k error. (At one time they claimed 144 k watchtowerians were the selected few going to heaven). They literally make stuff up. Around 1973 or 74, they claimed a comet would come that year and destroy earth. Of course...

They fell backwards when He spoke in power. So will you.

thank you. I am here for you guys and for the reader. Folks need to see the true word of God. Deceivers are here. Cunning and evil

QUOTE """Again there is an assumption upon which the interpretation of these verses depends.....the assumption that John 1:1 is an accurate translation of the original Greek....and the meaning of the word “theos”....the primary meaning given by Strongs is...“a god or goddess, a general name of...

No verses? Well thankfully you are safer that way.

Watchtower actually thinks God commands his angels to worship a created being.

Go against the bible It is your watchtower job Heb 1 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he...

Pot. / kettle I am seeing YOU go against the bible. I already posted the verses. You are just a troll now.

Lol Now you have God winking at sin. Jehovah says to worship only God. So many of you get owned in a bible study. Every time. My job here is watch you go against The bible. Defending sin is yalls specialty now a days.