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  1. PinSeeker

    Why the great chain?

    Okay, fair enough. I would just say that those who are not of God are of their father the devil, and their will is to do his will, as Jesus says in John 6, explicitly in John 8, and John 10. Antichrists, as John speaks of them in 1 John 2. I say this as if it is no big deal or something, but...
  2. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Well, he wasn't. There's no "per se" to it, really. But he was "a devil," in the same sense as Judas was in the words of Jesus. And an "antichrist" as John speaks of them in 1 John 2. As you and I both know, those who are not born again and thus of God are of their father the devil, and...
  3. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    I gave it the answer it deserved. It was non sequitur. And a defense mechanism of some sort on your part, I guess. And just more of what I was talking about a couple of posts ago. Grace and peace to you.
  4. PinSeeker

    Why the great chain?

    Same to you, William. Same to you. Indeed. Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    We all do. We will all be judged according to what we have done. Again, many will be on Christ's right, and many on His left... We've talked about this before. I get it; you think all the events of Revelation 19 happen before all the events of Revelation 20, and that's... not the case. The...
  6. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Well no... <chuckles> Right... Yes... and we'll remain here when the fullness of God's eternal kingdom is ushered in... No. Not at all. Quite the opposite. <smile> So you... want to go and experience God's wrath and vengeance for yourself? Hmmmm... <smile> Grace and peace to you, Behold.
  7. PinSeeker

    Why the great chain?

    I’m well aware of where it is. But i disagree, and strongly so, obviously, regarding to whom it is directed. And explicitly so, yes. Tyre became a symbol of pride, wealth, and arrogance in the prophetic books, and we see that here. Tyre here symbolizes human pride, self-sufficiency, and...
  8. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    This seems like an immediately contradictory statement in and of itself. Sudden destruction comes upon Satan and his minions but does not destroy him yet? I mean... okay... not going to argue, but yeah, self-contradictory it is... Ugh. <smile> The end of the "thousand years" is what prompts...
  9. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    That's so not what I said or implied. All I was saying in that ~ to @TribulationSigns and not you or anybody else ~ is that really, what his opinion on these things is doesn't really matter to me one way or the other... and that I am just a bit curious what he would say, so in that sense I do...
  10. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    <eye roll> Wow. Yeah. I mean... dude. I think some posters on here need to get a life. <smile> Yeah, I'm headed to the golf course. <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  11. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    No need for me, personally, but I just wanted you to explicitly state your position. Without somebody else putting words in your mouth. Oooo....kaaaaayyyy... but you don't actually "den(y) the existence of ...the devil (Satan)" and you don't "den(y) that Adam and Eve... were tempted by...
  12. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    What are your beliefs about the devil, @TribulationSigns ? Set the record straight. <smile> You know, instead of having words put in your mouth, which nobody likes? <chuckles> Grace and peace.
  13. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Okay, whatever. Happy fighting. <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Why the great chain?

    LOL! No.... but certainly think what you want... Yes, and why would we be told that, Jay? So you're kind of making my point for me... <smile> Yes. But there is much... oh, misdirection <chuckles> ...out there on that... <smile> I don't mean intentional misdirection, but... <smile> Hmmm...
  15. PinSeeker

    Why the great chain?

    Well, it is what it is, and a very misunderstood concept, as I said. I'm not sure where... somebody... is getting 'entombed' out of that, but whatever. Sure. Never said otherwise. It will happen at the end of this "thousand years," God's "millennium" of Revelation 20:1-6. Grace and peace to...
  16. PinSeeker

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Okay, fine. Whatever. No, not in the sense that Cain was Satan himself. Of course not. But... <chuckles> Ohhhhh, you'll love this... and you might even agree, but no matter either way... in the same sense of what Jesus said of Judas in John 6:70, yes. And I'm pretty sure he meant it in...
  17. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    We who are in Christ wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who will sustain us to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Right, we are "not appointed unto the day of wrath," which is to say we will not experience it, or be subjected to it. But it is surely not to...
  18. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Hmmm, yes, but I say the "sudden destruction" will come upon Satan at the time of Christ's coming, and then upon the deceived and wicked upon the final Judgment. And the suddenness will be in the sense that, well, as in Noah's day, the "deceived and wicked," "...in those days before the flood...
  19. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I am, but that's a... problematic <smile> ...way of putting it. We were born in sin ~ in the flesh, which does not mean just that we were physical beings, but that we were born sinful ~ just like David and all the rest of humanity and were thus children of wrath (Ephesians 2:1-3) in our natural...